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General ElectdcCo. General Manager, Waste Management Services,
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Responsible for Vallecitos Nuclear Laboratory, including operati' on, ,several test and isotopeproc:luction reactors ;
s~ipmerit of
irradiated leaa test assemblies from
.comniercial operating re~otors '
for destructive tests and examinations in hot cells.
Responsi~le for ' operation
Illinois, including
transport
of
Morris fuel s torage facility at Morris;
of
spent fuel fr~mcommercial
operating reactors for storage at MOrris using the 'IF-300
rail
casks.
Design/development and testing of
low- level waste volume reduction,
systems, including dry compactors and liquid waste solidification
, systems utilizing azeotropic distillation processes.
Manager, Field Services
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Commercial reactor original equipment installation, startup testing
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Site supervision for all GE~BWR nuclear steam systems operations.
Reactor ou~age planning, fuel loading, repair and maintenance
implementation at all , GE-BWR operating commercial plants.
Design, testing and installation of
reactor upgrade and retrofit
systems in compliance with NRC requirements and quality assurance
programs
'Manager, Engineering Consulting Services
Design/procurement/installation of
mechanIcal, electrical and
hydraulic systems to improve nuclear plant operating performance,
Design a~d operation of
remote, ultrasonic inspectiqn devices for
reactor pressure vessels and piping using state-of-the-art robotics
and computerized data recording sys
~s ,
Operated a design/procurement/warehousing s~stem for pooling
inventory of
large, long- lead procurement equipment for all
of
operating GE-BWR plants, including adapter kits for use
equipment
in multiple plants.
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Manager, Ucenslng and Safety
NRC li.censing responsibility~or all GE-BWR plants, including
construction pe~ts ,and
thermal h~'drau1ic design.
operating
lid~es.
Prepared generic Topical Reports ' for
NRC approval of nuclear,
structural analytical '
techniques used iri plant
Operated the BWR owners group of utilities which owned/operated all
, U. s. BWRplants, designing and implementing all NRC g~neric
requirements resulting from the TN! post~a6cident analysis.
Education
Newark (New Jersey) College of Engineering. , B. S., Mechanical
Engineering, 1959
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New York ,
University/U.S.
Air Force. Graduate Meteor;,logical Program,
1960
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Memberships
Americ
Institute an Nucl~ar
Society
SPACGrOup
for JiluclearJ?ower Operation
Professional :
'Professional Certification
Register~d Engineer ,- Nuclear, State
of California
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Selected PubUcations and Speeches of Ivan
1. Safety Analysis
Stuart
Revisio~ ' RepOrt for theNAC Storable Transport ~ NumerouS
199()';1998 '
1990-
2. Safety
1998
Analysis Report for the NACLegal WeIght TruCk Cask, Numerous Revisions,
1-28,
, 3. Topical Safety
Analysis Report for the NAC srr
Numerous Revisions, 1990-
1992
, 4. Topical Safety Analysis
Report for theNAC srr
C-28,
N~eroU$ ReVisions~1990
Management'
5 . ' Owl
Creek Energy Project, 1998 Institute of Nuclear Materials
" Conference, Washington,
6. Universal Mu1ti~purpose Canister System,
Management Conference, Washington D.
7~ Owl Creek Energy Project. 1998Institute of Nuclear Materials Conference, Washington and D.
8. Owl Creek Energy
C. C.
1997 Institute of Nuclear Materials
Managemeil~
Project: A Solution to the Spent Fuel Temporary Storage Issue
1998 Iritemational Conference on Nuclear Engineering.
9. Owl Creek Energy
ProjeCt: A Solution to the Spent Fuel Temporary Storage Issue, RadwasteMagazine July 1998. .
10. Owl Creek Energy Project: A Solution to the Spent Fuel Temporary Storage Issue, 1998 ANS .Utility Working Conference
11. Owl Creek Energy Project, 1999 Institute of Nuclear Materials Management Conference, Washington D.
C.
, San Francisco.
12. Owl Creek Energy Project: A Solutio:l to t~e Spent Fuel Temporary Storage Issue 1999 \Vaste Management Conference . Tucson
. AZ.
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IN THE U. S. COURT OF FEDERAL CLAIMS
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YANKEE . ATOMIC ELECTRIC CO.
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MAINE YANKE
ATO~.1IC POWER CO.,
CONNECTICUT YANKEE ATOMIC POWE
CO. ,
, Plaintiffs:
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: No. 98- 126C
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vs'
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
98-474C
98- 1S4C
Defendant.
Washington, D. C .
Tuesday, August 26, 2003
Deposition of:
DR. JOHN BARTLETT
called for examination by counsel for the
defendant, pursuant to notice and agreement
commencing at
9: 30 a. m.,
at Department of Justice
1100 L Street N. W.,
before Virlana Kardash, RPR,
CSR, a Notary Public in and for the District of
Columbia, when were present ' on behalf of the
respective parties:
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involved nuclear engineering or nuclear sciences?
Not at the
time.
What was YQur job title at Knolls
Atomic Power?
Staff engineer.
And you went there as soon as you
graduated in 1957?,
The day after'
What were your responsibilities at
Knolls?
We were working on the design of the
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Navy' s first nuclear- powered surface ship, and I
was one of the design engineering
staff.
And
there were some, unique technical issues associated
with the materials that they wanted to make the
reactor system out
of.
And I was involved in
trying to weld materials
that.
before.
They were
different materials that
had never been put together
What materials were you working with?
Inconel and stainless steel.
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leave of absence from Knolls in order to get your
Ph.
Uh- huh.
And your Ph. D also came from RPI?
Uh- huh.
That was also in Chemical Engineering?
That I S right.
And did you go full-time for
your Ph.
Very full.
So you had no other jobs while you
were
t~ing
to do that?
No.
Many a long Saturday evening.
Do you recall what you worked on
you were getting your Ph.
while'
Well, my thesis was concerned with
what I s known
in' the business as simultaneous , heat
And Chemical
mass and momentum transfer.
Engineering is the only discipline that addresses
problems like
that.
When
And the application that was the b~sis for
my thesis had to do with drying a paper.
you I re
manufacturing paper, you start out with
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this wet goop, and then it goes on a net
basically, and is dried to become
paper.
And it' s a classic problem , and you have to
drive the water out.
extracting heat, et
It you t re cetera. So simultaneously,
t s moving
it'
s a combination of all kinds of physics and
chemistry.
, It t S a common
others.
work.
Okay.
problem in that area and
But th1s was the subject of , my thesis
During you Ph. D
studies, did you
study nuclear engineering or nuclear sciences?
What happened at that time is not only
do you study it, but you teach
it.
Learn i t on~
year and teach it the next was the state of the
art at that
time.
What nuclear science or nuclear
engineering courses did you teach?
Reactor design.
thermal hydraulics
Wha t ' s known as
in other words, the issue of
how the reactor heats the
water.
Is it fair to say you were essentially
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teaching many of the courses you had taken when
you got your Masters at RPI?
That'
s not far from the truth.
At this point did you take or teach any
classes that had to do with spent nuclear fuel?
No.
What did you do in 1962 after you got
your Ph.
I was given an opportunity to go back
to Rochester to
join, t~e faculty of the Chemical
and to teach
the nuclear
Engineering Department, where I had my
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option at the U of
They had just started up a program under an
Atomic Energy Commission grant, and they offered
me the faculty position to teach the nuclear
courses as well as traditional chemical
engineering courses.
So did you not go back to Knolls, then?
I left Knolls as an employee in 1962
but I was
retained' there as
a consultant for all
I'd go
the time I was at Rochester, actually.
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there in the summers occasionally during the
school year.
Starting with what you were doing at
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the University of Rochester, what were you
teaching specifically?
Unit operations, thermodynamics,
~dvanced , differential equations for engineers,
nuclear engineering, nuciear fuel cy~le.
Were you teaching undergraduates?
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Yes.
And graduates as well?
Uh- huh.
What did the nuclear fuel cycle course
involve?
The idea that you start actually with
the extraction 0f uranium, go through the reactor
design.
And at the time, of course, reprocessing
was essentially the expectation, which is very
straightforward chemical engineering.
So at the time, that was the only
possible end to the fuel cycle?
That'
s what was expected , uh- huh.
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Did you ' teach anything else while you
were at , Rochester?
It turned out that I developed
program jointly with a professor in the school of
Medicine for research in diabetes, and I had
several of my graduate students do theses on
problems in d~abetes.
And in addition, I had graduate students
doing theses on corrosion issues, what ' was
called
boundary layer theory associated with how the
water causes corrosion or deposition of corrosion
products.
So it was that kind of a
thin~.
Okay.
No.
Did you teach anything else?
Just basically the chemical
courses and the nuclear courses and then direction
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of the theses.
Just so that you know, when I ask is there anything else, I don't mean to imply that
what you' ve
told me is not enough.
m simply
trying to get a complete list.
What we would do is rotate
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civilian effo~t, same sort of thing for commercial
power reactors, what was to be the application of
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it.
And it h?ppened that in the -- during that
time frame, I had put in for a position as a
Fulbright professor, and then subsequently Hanford
offered me an opportunity to come : bapk
full employment.
there for
But what I did after that summer, which was
the basis, then, for the following year, is I went
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back to university for a year.
When that year was
employee but
actually, in the
up, I went back to Hanford as . an
almost immediately left there
fall
to become a Fulbright professor of Nuclear
Engineering in Istanbul, Turkey.
Let me make sure I understand the time
line.
So in the
s~er of 1967, you were working
in this fellowship program at Hanford?
Uh- huh.
When you finished that fellowship
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program, you went back to the University of
Rochester as a faculty member?
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technologies for defense production operations.
And our group was involved in that kind of
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development.
It I S essentially
laboratory
chemistry.
What' year would it have been,
when you left Hanford to go to Istanbul?
then,
1968, late 168.
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What , did you teach in Istanbul?
Atomic physics" reactor
engineering,
reactor design.
Did you do anything else while you
taught, or was that your sole responsibility?
Well, they had , by definition , a
graduate program, but they were very impoverished 15,
with respect to being able to resource these
programs.
So rather than directing the students
in actual thesis- type work, I worked with
themih
an advisory capacity.
And it turned out that one of the major
responsibilities was to help get them into
universi'ties in the
United States.
kind of like a gUidance
So you I re
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of them were like embassy audiences, you know,
policy or government people.
some were public.
Some were technical
I went to Ankora, Izmia (ph. ) ,
Istanbul, et cetera.
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This was essentially ~ mar~eting tool?
That'
s really ~hat NASA was
doing.
" And
"Space is wonderful for you" was the
look at all the side benefits.
theme.
So was your primary objective just
get people excited about the space program?
to,
To inform them, yes.
Did you do anything else while you were
in Istapbul?
No, not professionally.
And you were there for one year?
Uh- huh.
What did you do in 1969?
Came back to Hanford.
And during the
interval while I was in Istanbul, I was with
Battelle Memorial Institute, what is now Pacific
Northwest Laboratories.
During the time I was in
Istanbul, Battelle had formed a nuclear waste
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management program office.
When I came back t' o
Battelle, I was made
Manager of Systems Studies within that program
office.
m sorry. Can you give me that title
again?
System Studies.
What did that job entail?
Basically
~ing to determine
what
kind of a program made sense because everything
was just starting with respect to waste
t:::~;
management, et
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cetera.
And they had no idea how
the pieces would fit together.
So what was needed at the time were the
these studies of how you could put together an
operational sys tem.
What do you mean when you say
everything was just starting?
Well , what has become the present
program, Office of , Civilian
eye at that
Radioactive Waste
Management, et cetera, was just a glimmer in the
time.
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I don
t t
know if you
t re aware, but the effort
to site a place for disposal had had some very
terrible failures up to that point.
And it was
disorganized
There was no organized effort.
was simply trying to find a place for disposal.
And no one had given any thought to anything
about how you get it there or what the , technology
would be, et cetera.
It was a siting effort
strictly.
Up until this point' , had you had any
involvement in nuclear waste disposal?
It started then in a sense because,
around that time frame, the Atomic Energy
Commission first formed the Division of Waste
Management and Transportation.
And they made
Battelle ' the contractor for that effort.
And the first job was to develop their
program plan.
And I was one of the two people
that did that, that drafted their initial program
plan for trying to, put
for getting stuff from
together a complete system
Actually, it was to ~e the reprocessing
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