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Case 1:04-cv-01565-SLR

Document 126-13
Adams
Arlin

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Did he was going

you understand
to

at

that

time that

be did

trying to

get

that

money

No
Is

not
experience

it your tell

sir that
someone owes

when them

people large take

you

they believe money that

sum of steps
to

they typically

try to

collect

it
Ill
object nature
to of

MR BRESSLER
the

form and

the hypothetical

10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you

the

question

dont
matters
so So

have

much

experience

in

such

cant

say

its my experience
us

youre telling
an

then
one

sir that
way or the

didnt have

expectation that Dan

other upon he
was

learning large
to

Crowley

believed

owed

sum of

money that he
claim
that you

didnt want
made
the

prejudice
it was

that

decision

between an

him and that money

Cerberus you didnt have
he was

expectation collect
the

going

to

be

trying to

from Cerberus

MR BRESSLER
the of

Ill object
complex

to

form and
the

the

compound

nature

question

dont

think

was

thinking

along

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those

lines
Did you steps expect
--

that

he

was

not

going

to

take

any

No
--

to

collect

it
along

As those

say

wasnt thinking

lines
So the fact

that
to

Dan

Crowley
that

may money
of

have 10 11
12

later taken was

steps

collect

from Cerberus breach
of

not

in your

mind part
is

any

fiduciary

duty

that

right

MR BRESSLER
form Thats not what
he

Object

to..the

13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 have very Dan owed

said

hadnt thought about that Youre thinking
Crowleys
to

about collect

it

now

Was

effort

to

that of

money fiduciary

him by Cerberus

breach

duty
In

--

the

sense

that
He

think knew
that

he

should

kept

me

advised
subject

this was and with He

touchy

with

the
that

court very

Judge knew one with

Walrath
that was

She made concerned

clear
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about

it
had

was

of

the very

first things

discussed

him

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And went ahead

when had

he

--

and

despite

that

he

and

meetings
he

or letters or

telephone

calls whatever
with
that

had
Cerberus
to

communicating

Mr
was

Feinberg and not
the

think
conduct

yes
things Did

right way

with ask

me
him not
to

you

pursue

his

claim against

Cerberus

No
10 11
12 13

When When prejudice
tell

he he

asked told

you

--

withdrawn
did not want
to

you he

his

claim against there were him to

Cerberus
steps

did you that
of

him that did not

certain
take

14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

you
that

want

in pursuit

claim Yes
laid down could
in he

three basic

rules

Im

not

so in

sure

remember

them but

they are

writing that that
he

prior depositions could not do anything with

One
for

Cerberus

was

inconsistent not
to

Coram

Number
he

two
be

could

spend Coram

any time that
in

should

devoting And

regard

to

Cerberus There told

matters

there was specific today

third
that recall

were

three very Sitting

things

him

here

cant

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all

three
Did you ever ask him how much
he

was

owed

by Cerberus

dont
Did you
was

think

so
that Dan Crowley

understand

not

lawyer
think understood
he

was

not

lawyer
Was 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to do it your

understanding

--

withdrawn
Did continued but not
to He to

Dan
do

Crowley certain
for
--

tell

you

that

he

things
that

for Cerberus

be

paid me

work
not
so

told

it was

much that

an from

understanding
time to

What

he

told me was

time matters which

would

arise within Feinberg horseback he to
call

Cerberus him to By

prompted

Mr

get he
to

his what created do any

call the

opinion

that

impression
It

wasnt
just

expected give

research

was

to
to

Mr

Feinberg that

his intuitive arise as

response Cerberus

situations

might And

or for

Mr Feinberg
And with

this was

very
if it

sporadic
has nothing
to

said
and

well
you

Coram

dont

have

spend

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very
to

much

time on

it

Im

not

going

to

object

that
So

based was

on those continuing

discussions
to

you

knew with

that

he

communicates

Stephen

Feinberg

correct
time
--

From time to what
he

knew time call

from

said that

from time to Feinberg might

sporadically

Mr

him

Thats
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
to

all So

knew
you knew then that he was still

communicating

with

Mr

Feinberg

right

Well cant
embroider

stand

on my prior answer

it
it

Well
you
at

didnt come

as

surprise that
he was

later time to

learn

still in communication

with

Mr Feinberg

did

it
Well
when you say

in
surprise
as If

communication yes
you that ask
the

that

was

question

did it come

surprise call

21
22 23 24 25

from time to
the

time

Mr

Feinberg would

him

answer Did
it

is

no
you
to

surprise

learn time

that

in

their communications

from time to

Mr

Crowley

would

raise with

Mr

Feinberg

the

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with

theirs
Did there come the time you read time in March were appointed
of

2002

about

trustee
opinions1

when one

you

Judge

Wairaths
relating
of to

oral one written
plans

Corams first two proposed
reorganization
There And 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 form
--

did
recall
to

do you relation

approximately

when

that

was

in

your appointment would or the say maybe day
the

Very day of the

early

appointment
at

after
become Crowley and

And aware
of

that

time did you
to

the

issue relating conflict
of

Dan

potential

interest
object
to the

MR BRESSLER

Idid
MR BRESSLER
answer
--

but

he

may

Yes
Did trusteeship documents you
in

the any to

early period
of the

of

your

review

underlying
of

relating

this conflict

interest

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Votume

cant dont
recall
Let

recall

may

have

but

me

try to

be

little bit more

specific

sir
Do you
of

recall

reviewing
the

during

the

early part between

the

trusteeship and

agreement

Cerberus

Mr Crowley it
whether you have ever

dont
Do 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 part
of

recall recall

you

reviewed

that
Sitting here

today

cant

recall

that

document
Do you recall between reviewing any and
of

correspondence

Mr

Crowley

Mr

Feinberg

in approximately

November

1999
Sitting Do employment you here recall cannot recall the and

that

reviewing

agreement

between

Crowley

Coram dont
Do you your

recall
recall sometime in the reviewing any early
of

trusteeship

Corams SEC filings
At any time during
the

trustee-

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yes

Im
part
of

trying

to

focus

on

the

early

the

trusteeship March

April that

period
think And do you

did
recall that
at

that

time
was

2002

the Cerberus/Crowley
in

relationship

disclosed

Corams SEC filings

MR BRESSLER
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
of the the

Ill
to

object

to he

form

He

can

answer

the

extent

recalls
Do vaguely whether recall sitting

here no

but

remember
it

reading that

about

it

Now

was

at

time Im not sure
the

After became

you

became for

trustee

you

responsible

Corams SEC filings

correct
That But
is -correct

you

also recall
of

having which

read

some

SEC filings your That Do

Coram

were

made

prior to

taking
is

over

correct
recall
at

you

some point report

early written

in

your trusteeship gentleman named

reviewing Harrison

by

Goldin

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do
So

recall

that
sometime in the

you
of is

read that
the

early period That Do
the of

trusteeship

correct
recall at reading
that

you

some point

early in

trusteeship

Corams original plan
had been filed
in the

reorganization

bankruptcy

court Well
read so
--

many

documents

10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

cant

sit

here

Im
test

not

trying to

give

you

memory

probably
of

did because

read

lots

material
We are

almost at

the

end

of

this

part

of

the

deposition

Go right ahead But read
its do

you

believe
of

that

you

also

Corams second plan
amended
A.

reorganization

plan sure
do

of

reorganization

Im
And

did
also believe statement with that was you filed plan

you

read

the

disclosure
in

that

by Coram
of

connection

its

original

reorganization

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A. as to

Ibelieve
when the

did but
it would

cant
have

be

sure

did except early

been

during

days

Okay

MR PETERS
Adams

Lets mark this

Adams Exhibit identification
Adams Exhibit 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on by Coram front of
do

was

marked

for

you

have

that

in

you

sir

Ido
Its
in Is the

disclosure
of

statement

filed

August this

2000
that

document

youve read

prior occasion
It

seems
is

to

be

but

Im

not

sure
the

There front named

gentleman

listed on Do you know

David--Friedman

who

heis
have heard
of

him

dont

know

him
You have never met

him

No
And you have have never any spoken
to

him
of

dont

recollection

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Youre writing
time where ten you have been

this at
the

period

of

trustee

for about

months Right
And
he

has

been

the

CEO

of

Coram

for

over

three

years right

Couldbe
And about 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 thought Crowley CEO
of his

youre writing
tenure
at

in

this document

entire

Coram correct

Correct

And
was

in

fact
an

you

concluded good

that job as

Dan
the

doing

extremely

Coram
Did

didnt you
say not

that
to

Im
document

purporting

quote

the

Im
No
he

just asking

you

wouldnt say extremely
doing pretty good

was

job
Sam

From the

time that

you

first met Levy
in

Zell Don Liebentritt and Richard
March
of

02
was

through

January they were

of

2003

when you

that
to

pleading terminate

filed

urging

Mr
They And

Crowley correct

were
during that time period they

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were

urging

you

to

sue

Mr Crowley correct
about
of to

dont time
correct second
The

know

the

suing

at is the

that

first part would have

your question hesitate on

Im

not

sure
recall
he

Dont
time you met file

you

that
was

from the you

first
to

Mr

Levy

urging

lawsuit

against

Feinberg

Crowley

and

others
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 use that
the In

think

thats right

fact

Mr

Levy

was

urging

you

to

file others

lawsuit which

against

Feinberg
as

Crowley

and

branded

them

racketeers

right

MR

BRESSLER

Ill

object

to

form but he can answer
He said he thOught

it
be

it might

RICO violation
--

And

the

in

RICO stands

for

racketeering

correct thats true but
as he to

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did not

expression

applied
was to

them
you large
in

Well April May
of

Mr
of

Levy
2002

urging
sue

June

number

people

including

Dan

Crowley

under

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racketeering That

statute
is

correct

true
that time period you did not

During terminate Dan That
In

Crowley
is

correct

true
during that
to

fact
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time period give him

you

entered

into

agreement

raise

correct
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was

could during
an

say

that
time period
to

And into

that

you

agreement very
file

give

him that

from the you
to

litigation against

Mr

Levy

13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

urging

him correct
object
to

MR BRESSLER
the

Ill

form but
Your

he

can

answer
although actual

questions

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well-intentioned facts
--

really distort the

Can you think So you answer
to

answer

my question

please

did
thought that was responsive

my question

Ido
Did reviewed there come prepared time that by Goldin you

report

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Harrison

IN

THE

FOR
ARLIN

THE

UNITED STATES DISTRICT OF

DISTRICT
DELAWARE
II

COURT

Certified
Case

Cop

ADANS
of the

Trustee

Chapter Post-

No

Confirmation Bankruptcy of 04-1565 Estates of Coram Healthcare CORPORATION and of CORAN INC Delaware corporation Plaintiff

vs
DANIEL

AMARAL
PETER

CROWLEY WILLIAM

DONALD

SMITH

and

CASEY SANDRA

SMOLEY Defendants

Wednesday

March

21

2007

1020

a.m

Deposition
the 1177 offices of of

of

HARRISON
Capital

GOLDIN

held

at

Cerberus the

Management

L.P
York

Avenue
to

Americas
before State

New

York

New

pursuant Notary

Notice
the

Danielle
of

Grant

Public of

New

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Harrison

Goldin
at

this

deposition

precisely but

when did on
in

or how learn the his

learned views And on

Mr Levys views
my role fairly becoming my

early

process
with his

recall on

generally but was do that

familiar not

position

role
it

recollect the

specifically elements or

what all of
In

comprised of his work the give he was

the

elements of

views
did

the

course

your to

you

10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

at

any

time

make

suggestion Crowley Cerberus

Special up his

Committee

that

Mr

should while

relationship

with

Corams

CEO Mr Kipnes
defined me of role
in

had

precise You the

and referred

the

Coram

matter
to

earlier that

in this

deposition that

formulation
as

role
and
it

regarded was that very
of

formulation

my

charter

role

that

fulfilled
with the on
to

I-had the Special

limited the

contact have

Committee and
of

board and

21
22 23 24 25

perfection
the an

focused the
to

myself

my teams

elements assessment

assignment the

which
if

related of of in

as

impact
on the

any

Mr

Crowleys
prior to

conflict the

management hearing

Coram

confirmation

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Harrison

Goldin December
of

2000

relating

to matters issues

as

we

discussed mediation

including

valuation

and

Did order appointing from

you you

feel

constrained

by

the

independent to the

restructuring Special

advisor

recommending they insist with was

Committee up 10 his

that

that

Mr
if

Crowley you for

give

relationship that that

Cerberus the best

concluded

thing

Coram

11
12 13 14 15 .16 17 18 19

todo
MR
of

BENTLEY

Objection

to

the

form

the

question
constrained
in is

Mr Kipnes
that was an

word

may or may not
not

apply was

this

situation
with conducting

trustee

charged and

independent had

examihation
center
is of

that

independent and that

examination center you
in of

gravity
that

gravity
prior
It

the

one

described

to

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22 23

my

answer
was not to enter
it

general not to

advice

to

the

Special issues not to

Committee
of good

was

consider
it

corporate
in

governance
on the which

24 25

was

participate
of

or advise

ongoing

management

the

company

all of

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Goldin

Mr
Exhibit which
21

Goldin
is

placed pages off

before
of

you

which

four
of

the

printed
ask me know

off you
if

the take
--

Goldin

Associates look need this
at

website
and the let

to you

quick

them read an

you

dont
if

to

entire

thing

but on

let the

me know Goldin

is

accurate

portrayal

Associates

website
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 influence on the the Coram

Yes
Who

sir
at

Goldin

Associates

headed

up

assignment

Idid
What was to Daniel the

Crowleys

role

if

any

with

respect

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Associates

assignment

dont
word role
Did the

understand

what

you

mean

by

Daniel report

Crowley that you

have

any

drafted

21
22 23 24 25 the

No
Did Daniel Crowley
at

participate

in

drafting of your

report

all

No
Apart from being interviewed by you

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Harrison

Goldin and your team
in

connection

with
as

the

report
you

did

Daniel with

Crowley to

do

anything
report thing
of

far as

know

respect

the

you

prepared
know

The did give was us to order everything Was able 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 independent perform were the by your interview needed with to all to get

only all we
it

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VOLUME IN THE FOR UNITED THE

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DISTRICT

OF DELAWARE

ARLIN ADAMS Chapter 11 Trustee of the Post-Confirmation Bankruptcy Estates of CORAN I-IEALTHCARE CORPORATION Delaware Corporation and of CORAN Delaware Corporation Plaintiff

INC

vs
DANIEL

CASE NO 04-1565

CROWLEY
WILLIAM

DONALD

AMARAL
PETER

CASEY
AND SANDRA

SMITH

SMOLEY
Defendants

Wednesday

March

28

2007

933 a.m

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Lewis LLP 3600 Philadelphia
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view years

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dont know Well
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extent

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sale was

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to

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NI

price

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own

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litigation this litigation meaning
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You

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