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Did he was going
you understand
to
at
that
time that
be did
trying to
get
that
money
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not
experience
it your tell
sir that
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when them
people large take
you
they believe money that
sum of steps
to
they typically
try to
collect
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object nature
to of
MR BRESSLER
the
form and
the hypothetical
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you
the
question
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matters
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have
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say
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us
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then
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him and that money
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going
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from Cerberus
MR BRESSLER
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form and
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the
compound
nature
question
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think
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thinking
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those
lines
Did you steps expect
--
that
he
was
not
going
to
take
any
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collect
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along
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Crowley
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12
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not
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mind part
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fiduciary
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right
MR BRESSLER
form Thats not what
he
Object
to..the
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 have very Dan owed
said
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Crowleys
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that
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clear
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about
it
had
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of
the very
first things
discussed
him
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And went ahead
when had
he
--
and
despite
that
he
and
meetings
he
or letters or
telephone
calls whatever
with
that
had
Cerberus
to
communicating
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was
Feinberg and not
the
think
conduct
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things Did
right way
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me
him not
to
you
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his
claim against
Cerberus
No
10 11
12 13
When When prejudice
tell
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asked told
you
--
withdrawn
did not want
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you he
his
claim against there were him to
Cerberus
steps
did you that
of
him that did not
certain
take
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
you
that
want
in pursuit
claim Yes
laid down could
in he
three basic
rules
Im
not
so in
sure
remember
them but
they are
writing that that
he
prior depositions could not do anything with
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for
Cerberus
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Coram
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two
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could
spend Coram
any time that
in
should
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regard
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Cerberus There told
matters
there was specific today
third
that recall
were
three very Sitting
things
him
here
cant
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all
three
Did you ever ask him how much
he
was
owed
by Cerberus
dont
Did you
was
think
so
that Dan Crowley
understand
not
lawyer
think understood
he
was
not
lawyer
Was 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to do it your
understanding
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withdrawn
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to He to
Dan
do
Crowley certain
for
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tell
you
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things
that
for Cerberus
be
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work
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told
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much that
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understanding
time to
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he
told me was
time matters which
would
arise within Feinberg horseback he to
call
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prompted
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get he
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call the
opinion
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expected give
research
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to
Mr
Feinberg that
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situations
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or for
Mr Feinberg
And with
this was
very
if it
sporadic
has nothing
to
said
and
well
you
Coram
dont
have
spend
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very
to
much
time on
it
Im
not
going
to
object
that
So
based was
on those continuing
discussions
to
you
knew with
that
he
communicates
Stephen
Feinberg
correct
time
--
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he
knew time call
from
said that
from time to Feinberg might
sporadically
Mr
him
Thats
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
to
all So
knew
you knew then that he was still
communicating
with
Mr
Feinberg
right
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embroider
stand
on my prior answer
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you
at
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surprise that
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later time to
learn
still in communication
with
Mr Feinberg
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it
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as If
communication yes
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the
that
was
question
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surprise call
21
22 23 24 25
from time to
the
time
Mr
Feinberg would
him
answer Did
it
is
no
you
to
surprise
learn time
that
in
their communications
from time to
Mr
Crowley
would
raise with
Mr
Feinberg
the
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with
theirs
Did there come the time you read time in March were appointed
of
2002
about
trustee
opinions1
when one
you
Judge
Wairaths
relating
of to
oral one written
plans
Corams first two proposed
reorganization
There And 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 form
--
did
recall
to
do you relation
approximately
when
that
was
in
your appointment would or the say maybe day
the
Very day of the
early
appointment
at
after
become Crowley and
And aware
of
that
time did you
to
the
issue relating conflict
of
Dan
potential
interest
object
to the
MR BRESSLER
Idid
MR BRESSLER
answer
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but
he
may
Yes
Did trusteeship documents you
in
the any to
early period
of the
of
your
review
underlying
of
relating
this conflict
interest
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Votume
cant dont
recall
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recall
may
have
but
me
try to
be
little bit more
specific
sir
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of
recall
reviewing
the
during
the
early part between
the
trusteeship and
agreement
Cerberus
Mr Crowley it
whether you have ever
dont
Do 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 part
of
recall recall
you
reviewed
that
Sitting here
today
cant
recall
that
document
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of
correspondence
Mr
Crowley
Mr
Feinberg
in approximately
November
1999
Sitting Do employment you here recall cannot recall the and
that
reviewing
agreement
between
Crowley
Coram dont
Do you your
recall
recall sometime in the reviewing any early
of
trusteeship
Corams SEC filings
At any time during
the
trustee-
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yes
Im
part
of
trying
to
focus
on
the
early
the
trusteeship March
April that
period
think And do you
did
recall that
at
that
time
was
2002
the Cerberus/Crowley
in
relationship
disclosed
Corams SEC filings
MR BRESSLER
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
of the the
Ill
to
object
to he
form
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can
answer
the
extent
recalls
Do vaguely whether recall sitting
here no
but
remember
it
reading that
about
it
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was
at
time Im not sure
the
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you
became for
trustee
you
responsible
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correct
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is -correct
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of
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read
some
SEC filings your That Do
Coram
were
made
prior to
taking
is
over
correct
recall
at
you
some point report
early written
in
your trusteeship gentleman named
reviewing Harrison
by
Goldin
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do
So
recall
that
sometime in the
you
of is
read that
the
early period That Do
the of
trusteeship
correct
recall at reading
that
you
some point
early in
trusteeship
Corams original plan
had been filed
in the
reorganization
bankruptcy
court Well
read so
--
many
documents
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
cant
sit
here
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test
not
trying to
give
you
memory
probably
of
did because
read
lots
material
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almost at
the
end
of
this
part
of
the
deposition
Go right ahead But read
its do
you
believe
of
that
you
also
Corams second plan
amended
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reorganization
plan sure
do
of
reorganization
Im
And
did
also believe statement with that was you filed plan
you
read
the
disclosure
in
that
by Coram
of
connection
its
original
reorganization
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A. as to
Ibelieve
when the
did but
it would
cant
have
be
sure
did except early
been
during
days
Okay
MR PETERS
Adams
Lets mark this
Adams Exhibit identification
Adams Exhibit 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on by Coram front of
do
was
marked
for
you
have
that
in
you
sir
Ido
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in Is the
disclosure
of
statement
filed
August this
2000
that
document
youve read
prior occasion
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seems
is
to
be
but
Im
not
sure
the
There front named
gentleman
listed on Do you know
David--Friedman
who
heis
have heard
of
him
dont
know
him
You have never met
him
No
And you have have never any spoken
to
him
of
dont
recollection
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Youre writing
time where ten you have been
this at
the
period
of
trustee
for about
months Right
And
he
has
been
the
CEO
of
Coram
for
over
three
years right
Couldbe
And about 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 thought Crowley CEO
of his
youre writing
tenure
at
in
this document
entire
Coram correct
Correct
And
was
in
fact
an
you
concluded good
that job as
Dan
the
doing
extremely
Coram
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didnt you
say not
that
to
Im
document
purporting
quote
the
Im
No
he
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you
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was
job
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From the
time that
you
first met Levy
in
Zell Don Liebentritt and Richard
March
of
02
was
through
January they were
of
2003
when you
that
to
pleading terminate
filed
urging
Mr
They And
Crowley correct
were
during that time period they
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were
urging
you
to
sue
Mr Crowley correct
about
of to
dont time
correct second
The
know
the
suing
at is the
that
first part would have
your question hesitate on
Im
not
sure
recall
he
Dont
time you met file
you
that
was
from the you
first
to
Mr
Levy
urging
lawsuit
against
Feinberg
Crowley
and
others
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 use that
the In
think
thats right
fact
Mr
Levy
was
urging
you
to
file others
lawsuit which
against
Feinberg
as
Crowley
and
branded
them
racketeers
right
MR
BRESSLER
Ill
object
to
form but he can answer
He said he thOught
it
be
it might
RICO violation
--
And
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in
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correct thats true but
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applied
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them
you large
in
Well April May
of
Mr
of
Levy
2002
urging
sue
June
number
people
including
Dan
Crowley
under
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racketeering That
statute
is
correct
true
that time period you did not
During terminate Dan That
In
Crowley
is
correct
true
during that
to
fact
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time period give him
you
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agreement
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was
could during
an
say
that
time period
to
And into
that
you
agreement very
file
give
him that
from the you
to
litigation against
Mr
Levy
13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
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him correct
object
to
MR BRESSLER
the
Ill
form but
Your
he
can
answer
although actual
questions
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--
really distort the
Can you think So you answer
to
answer
my question
please
did
thought that was responsive
my question
Ido
Did reviewed there come prepared time that by Goldin you
report
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Harrison
IN
THE
FOR
ARLIN
THE
UNITED STATES DISTRICT OF
DISTRICT
DELAWARE
II
COURT
Certified
Case
Cop
ADANS
of the
Trustee
Chapter Post-
No
Confirmation Bankruptcy of 04-1565 Estates of Coram Healthcare CORPORATION and of CORAN INC Delaware corporation Plaintiff
vs
DANIEL
AMARAL
PETER
CROWLEY WILLIAM
DONALD
SMITH
and
CASEY SANDRA
SMOLEY Defendants
Wednesday
March
21
2007
1020
a.m
Deposition
the 1177 offices of of
of
HARRISON
Capital
GOLDIN
held
at
Cerberus the
Management
L.P
York
Avenue
to
Americas
before State
New
York
New
pursuant Notary
Notice
the
Danielle
of
Grant
Public of
New
York
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Harrison
Goldin
at
this
deposition
precisely but
when did on
in
or how learn the his
learned views And on
Mr Levys views
my role fairly becoming my
early
process
with his
recall on
generally but was do that
familiar not
position
role
it
recollect the
specifically elements or
what all of
In
comprised of his work the give he was
the
elements of
views
did
the
course
your to
you
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
at
any
time
make
suggestion Crowley Cerberus
Special up his
Committee
that
Mr
should while
relationship
with
Corams
CEO Mr Kipnes
defined me of role
in
had
precise You the
and referred
the
Coram
matter
to
earlier that
in this
deposition that
formulation
as
role
and
it
regarded was that very
of
formulation
my
charter
role
that
fulfilled
with the on
to
I-had the Special
limited the
contact have
Committee and
of
board and
21
22 23 24 25
perfection
the an
focused the
to
myself
my teams
elements assessment
assignment the
which
if
related of of in
as
impact
on the
any
Mr
Crowleys
prior to
conflict the
management hearing
Coram
confirmation
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Harrison
Goldin December
of
2000
relating
to matters issues
as
we
discussed mediation
including
valuation
and
Did order appointing from
you you
feel
constrained
by
the
independent to the
restructuring Special
advisor
recommending they insist with was
Committee up 10 his
that
that
Mr
if
Crowley you for
give
relationship that that
Cerberus the best
concluded
thing
Coram
11
12 13 14 15 .16 17 18 19
todo
MR
of
BENTLEY
Objection
to
the
form
the
question
constrained
in is
Mr Kipnes
that was an
word
may or may not
not
apply was
this
situation
with conducting
trustee
charged and
independent had
examihation
center
is of
that
independent and that
examination center you
in of
gravity
that
gravity
prior
It
the
one
described
to
20 21
22 23
my
answer
was not to enter
it
general not to
advice
to
the
Special issues not to
Committee
of good
was
consider
it
corporate
in
governance
on the which
24 25
was
participate
of
or advise
ongoing
management
the
company
all of
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Goldin
Mr
Exhibit which
21
Goldin
is
placed pages off
before
of
you
which
four
of
the
printed
ask me know
off you
if
the take
--
Goldin
Associates look need this
at
website
and the let
to you
quick
them read an
you
dont
if
to
entire
thing
but on
let the
me know Goldin
is
accurate
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Associates
website
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 influence on the the Coram
Yes
Who
sir
at
Goldin
Associates
headed
up
assignment
Idid
What was to Daniel the
Crowleys
role
if
any
with
respect
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Associates
assignment
dont
word role
Did the
understand
what
you
mean
by
Daniel report
Crowley that you
have
any
drafted
21
22 23 24 25 the
No
Did Daniel Crowley
at
participate
in
drafting of your
report
all
No
Apart from being interviewed by you
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Harrison
Goldin and your team
in
connection
with
as
the
report
you
did
Daniel with
Crowley to
do
anything
report thing
of
far as
know
respect
the
you
prepared
know
The did give was us to order everything Was able 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 independent perform were the by your interview needed with to all to get
only all we
it
Mr
at
Crowley Coram to
the
people
asked for
experience that you were
your to
access
--
all the and
documentary you
information needed to
evidence your
information
reach
conclusion
Yes
Was the
sir
Goldin Associates from to able Coram to that itself
it
individuals in order
interview to the
satisfy
in
respect
conclusions
this
report
Yes
Did
sir
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VOLUME IN THE FOR UNITED THE
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STATES
DISTRICT
COURT
Certified
Copy
DISTRICT
OF DELAWARE
ARLIN ADAMS Chapter 11 Trustee of the Post-Confirmation Bankruptcy Estates of CORAN I-IEALTHCARE CORPORATION Delaware Corporation and of CORAN Delaware Corporation Plaintiff
INC
vs
DANIEL
CASE NO 04-1565
CROWLEY
WILLIAM
DONALD
AMARAL
PETER
CASEY
AND SANDRA
SMITH
SMOLEY
Defendants
Wednesday
March
28
2007
933 a.m
Continued ARLIN offices of
of
Lewis LLP 3600 Philadelphia
pursuant
to
videotape deposition held at the law Schiiader Harrison Segal 1600 Market Street Suite
ADAMS
Pennsylvania
19103
notice
Whyte
and
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How
Because
as was
later learned worth
at
the
facts
that
unit and
least
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probably than
sale
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more
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was and
course
of
Mr Crowley
the of an
who
completed
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at
important unit 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 hearings everything have been
price
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obtained
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learn
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aware
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2000
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view years
is
in
light of
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fact
that sold for
number
lot
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later the have have
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company opinion
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for
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form
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of CPS of just
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seen
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business unit
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less
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dont know Well
minute
didnt you just suggest
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ago Its
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possibility
did you that mean when you suggested had
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minute interest
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sold for less
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value
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word
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to
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normally consider business whether
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assessing sold for bankers
unit
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price
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investment
company
fairness
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extent
that
he
should
have
thats
the
big
question
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facts
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sale was
fair from
financial
perspective
going
to
MR BRESSLER
object
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DBAB used the
rendering
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of
the
paragraph 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 You
says
41.3 of
The
price
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to
any
part
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of
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me where
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NI
price
that
Coram
obtained
ultimately
is
in
the
range of
values
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view no
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of the
portion
out the
of to CPS
the
just
pointed that
you
sale
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formed
your opinion
of
involved 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to that
breach
fiduciary
duty by
Crowley
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of
this material
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zeroed doubt You testimony issues
if in
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read
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at or
and
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testimony Do you
experts
about
time
recall
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own
proposed
plan
of
reorganization
for
Coram
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And there was
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recall
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million was
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fund
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this
the that
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
litigation this litigation meaning
litigation you they were proposing
in 2002
bring dont
know whether
if
they they
were going
to
limit it to not
be
that but
to
were
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Levy
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MR BRESSLER
form of
In the
Object
to
the
question
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you
yes didnt
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opposed
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didnt pursue
it
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You
didnt agree with his plan
correct
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it
in
any
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in
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primarily in resolving two
dispute
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--
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before do
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but
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THE 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 between
that
COURT
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resolving
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interested between
primarily in two
dispute
the
factions
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that
you
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ever
of
tell
Dan
Crowley
30 of 2003
March were
2002 to
and
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you
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MR BRESSLER
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13
ever
of
Mr
Crowley
30 of 2003
2002
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March
you
considering
suing
him
but doubt
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may
have
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