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CONFIDENTIAL
CONFIDENTIAL
IN
THE FOR
UNITED THE
STATES
DISTRICT
COURT
Certified
Copy
DISTRICT
OF DELAWARE
ARLIN ADAMS Chapter 11 Trustee of the Post-Confirmation Bankruptcy Estates of CORAM HEALTHCARE Delaware CORPORATION Corporat ion and of CORAM INC Delaware Corporation Plaintiff
Vs
DANIEL
CASE NO 04-1565
CROWLEY
WILLIAM
DONALD
ANAPAL
PETER
CASEY
AND SANDRA
SMITH
SMOLEY
Defendants
Monday
26 946 a.m
March
2007
of Videotaped deposition CHRISTINA held at the law MORRISON offices of Ballard Spahr Andrews Ingersoll LLP 1735 Market Street
51st
Floor
pursuant
Philadelphia
to
Pennsylvania
19103
notice
Whyte
and
Registered
before Cynthia Professional Reporter
Notary
Public
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Q.
Do you remember who you interacted
with at Coram? A. No; I was sort of in the bowels
working on most of the financial pieces of the transaction. That was the first time I heard of the company.
Q.
Did you come to be involved with
Coram in roughly 1999? A. Yeah, I think that was around the
time. We got a call.
I believe it was Rick
Smith called in to one of my co-heads who knew him from that original transaction and said, "We have an opportunity. Bring a team out. We would like to talk to you about it."
Q.
And what did you know about Coram at
the time? A. Just what was publicly available. I
knew very little about it. And, as I recall, we had a pretty short period of time from when we got the call to when we decided to go out
,
there', so there wasn't a lot of time to learn much about it.
Q.
And did you travel to Denver to meet
with Coram? A. Yes.
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Q.
So it was Rick Smith and Wendy
Simpson who engaged you to sell the CPS unit?
A.
Correct. How did you - - what did - - strike
Q.
that. What did you understand to be your responsibilities in serving as the investment bank for the sale of CPS? A. It was to prepare a document and go
out to the market and determine what options they had in terms of selling the business and, to the extent that was acceptable, to then try to get a negotiation - - or to negotiate to get a transaction done.
Q.
Let's look at section 1 (b) of this
letter. It says, "Deutsche Bank will assist client in identifying and evaluating candidates for a potential transaction." A. Right. So did you understand your role to
Q.
include - A.
Identifying candidates, correct. And also evaluating whether or not
Q.
they would be suitable - A. Correct.
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Morrison Christina
transaction
So
dont
remember who
called
whom but
it
was
it
just calls your understanding when you
was the
Was first spoke CEO
of
to
Dan
Crowley
that
he
new
Coram
Initially
didnt really know who
role
he was
was
--
what had
his
official and
us
was
Rick nobody
one
gone told
Dan
that
was one out is
there and
was out
officially 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you
first due was
and
in
figured About how how
that long
eventually
it
--
but..
approximately
this
long had you
first
you
been
to
working Dan
on
deal before
spoke
Crowley
dont
recall
when
first talked
tohim
The diligence process ongoing
of
--
was
the
process spoke
of to
when you
first
Dan
Crowley
Yes
Was the
process
of
the
auction
--
strike
that
Was the
auction
to
process
ongoing
when
spoke
It
Dan
Crowley
remember what point
was
dont
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of
the
process part
it of
was
the
but
we
had
already do where
at we
undergone
process
to
because
as we to
recall bringing
him up
speed where
were but
point
in the
dont
recall
were
that
process
Dan Crowley
of
Did orders
or the
change the
your marching
of
nature
he
--
scope you
your
to
engagement
when
when
first spoke
him
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with
the of the
No
At
any point
to
did Dan be your
Crowley
alter
what
you
understood The
job your role
never
engagement
letter was
amended
or changed What were your perceptions
that of
Dan had
Crowley with
from the
interactions
you
him MR KIPNES
question
have than
the he lot of
Object
to
the
form
Didnt
him other business
that
conversation asking
we
was
just
about
and
process
where
of just the
were
Beyond
didnt have
with
He
lot
It
conversations very
him
would
was on
really ask
focused
get
phone
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some
questions
the
would would an
give be
him
the answers
and
phone
call
over
of the
Did you whether value
of
have
understanding trying to
Dan
the
Crowley sale to not
was
maximize
Coram
how
to
Im
Did have
an
sure
answer
that
understanding
you understand
the CPS that for
Did wanted 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
he to sell We
Dan
as
Crowley
as he
sell it
--
unit
much
could
for
towards
the
end
of
of
the
process offers many
we brought
at the
forth
handful
specific how
of
very
end
And
he
dont didnt
the
remember
like
there And
so
were
he
any
them
said Stop
Why
process
them
in
didnt
he
like
your
understanding
He
said they
werent enough
And we
of
and
so
stopped
the process for some period
were
basically think
it
suspended
was
time
21
22 23 24 25
up
to
month
where
to
dont
we just
recall
specifically and
that
didnt
and you
do
anything them
was
went
the at
back
those
was
parties
told
process
that
completed
know
done
point
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Morrison Christina
And reason
your understanding
was
that
the
Deutsche was
not He
Banks
activities
the
were had come
suspended back were
because high
bids that
enough
like
didnt
he
any
of to
them
you what
it
Did
was he
communicate about
like
didnt
He
like
them
the level of
didnt
them
He
thought
they were were
too
low
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 collecting correct
come
They
too
low
head
in the
Witness
shakes
affirmative
The
price
the
Correct
So
price
time
--
there came there came Dan
is
it
that and
time where Dan
bids had
back
believed
Crowley
not
believed
that
those
to
bids were warrant
sufficiently
high
the
sale of
CPS
Correct
Can you describe
the
process
of
information
it was
that Deutsche
to sell
Bank
went
through when
engaged
CPS
Which
Let
information
it
me ask
again
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What Deutsche
it was
sort
of
information from the
CPS
did unit after
Bank
collect
engaged
We gave them would fairly standard typically performance plans
that
request
list that
include
of
historical versus have
financials
budget
actual
any business about
they might management
had
information
team
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that
we for list that
There
we
is
fairly standard looking
the for so
request
we
were
that
could
ultimately that
we
draft
to
confidential
memorandum
needed
pull together BRAtJNIG Can we mark this
MR
exhibit
please Morrison Exhibit
was
marked
identification
Do you recognize this
--
Yes
--
document
Yes
What This
sent So is is to all this the the of
document
information request
list
CPS the
division
things
that are
listed
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Morrison Christina
did not
undertake Did you have
valuation any
analysis
with price
communications about potential
Dan
at
Crowley
that
or the
in
board
point
time
recall any specific
dont
conversations
MR BRAUNIG
five-minute
Lets take
break
WITNESS
THE 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
BY for off the
Okay
We are
VIDEO record
TECHNICIAN
at
now
1051
recess
Short
VIDEO on the record
at
TECHNICIAN
We
are
now
1101
Can we mark
this
MR
next
BRktJNIG
exhibit
please
was marked
Morrison Exhibit identification
BR2tJNIG Miss
MR
Morrison
do
you
recognize
this
21
22 23 24 25
document
Yes
Im sorry
And This what was
is
This
this
is Morrison
document
memorandum
the offering
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Morrison Christina
that
we
pulled
together
the
for
the of
CPS
sale
Whats
memorandum
purpose
an
offering
Its
the
to
tell to
potential them
buyers
about
business
and
provide
typically company
to in as
confidential help them
information
if
about
are
the
determine bid and
to
they
interested
some
placing
to the
give them
They
sense prepare
financial
to
status
the
can
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
their response And enough
to the so
bid request
is to
the
goal that
give
them then return
information company
they
could
or the
investment
bank
with
--
potential
that
bid range
it fits
in which into the
they would
--
is
where
strike
that
Ill rephrase
At
what
stage
of
the
process
is
an
offering
memorandum
prepared
at.the beginning
sent to of
Its prepared
the
process
and
itis
typically have
potential
buyers
who
signed and have about expressed
the
confidentiality
an
agreement learning
interest
in
more
business
Were you prepared
in the
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Morrison Christina
Whats
the
question
Sorry
we
MR
question
BRAtJNIG
Could
read the
back
please
read the
The court reporter
record
as
requested
MR KIPNES
cant
In the
Same objection
answer auction was
that
process after the what did
offering 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
that we
memorandum Bank
do to
created
Deutsche
share
this with
potential
acquirers
We
had either
list
of
potential
or
acquirers contacted
to
had
contacted them were
had
us
and
number
of
asked
If
sign
confidentiality confidentiality actually sent
agreements
agreement out
the
--
they
signed
we
before
confidentiality
agreements
remember
or with if
there was
it was
discussion
with
dont
the
specifically
but
board been
management
that
there would
the we list are
have
to
discussions these give
are the
narrowed that
say
to to
the
parties
going
to
confidentiality everybody then
was
agreements
in
ensure
that
that
agreement
CA5
with
list
and
send
the
out
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Morrison, Christina CONFIDENTIAL
had provided bids for the CPS unit, is it correct that none of those companies believed the CPS unit was worth more than $50 million?
MR. KIPNES: Object to the form
of the question. Lacks.foundation.
Q.
So after seven different companies
had provided bids for the CPS unit, is it correct that none of those companies stated that CPS was worth more than $50 million? MR. KIPNES: of the question. A.
Q.
Object to the form
Lacks foundation.
Yes. Were all of the bids received for
the CPS unit between 10 and $50 million?
A.
Yes. Does anything in the bid letters
Q.
provided - - strike that. Did anything in the bid letters sent to you indicate that CPS was worth $100 mi 11ion?
MR. KIPNES:
Object to the form
of the question.
A.
Q.
No.
All of these companies
- - did all of
these companies have the same information in
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Morrison Christina
front
of
them
They would have
all sent
had by
the
confidential Did companies
four
memorandum
us correct
seven
you
from the bid
list of
who would
submitted be
letters select
perform due
who
allowed
to
diligence
dont
but
recall
the
specific
number
come
in
from that perform
list the
list that
could
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to
diligence did you
be
was
selected
which
to
How companies
select
four
due
would
allowed
perform
diligence
We
--
at
this point presented
we
would bid
have
gone and
back talked
to
Coram
the
the
letters
to
about
next-step
go in
process how many
determine who would
go
should
and
people
back
to
into conduct
actually you meet
more detailed with
the the due
diligence
company
diligence
Did process
for
coordinate companies
those
with
Coram
Yes
Did between you serve
as the
interface
them Yes
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Morrison Christina
MR
next exhibit
BR1tJNIG Morrison
Lets mark
this
Morrison Exhibit
for
was
marked
identification
Is
this
document
that
you
recognize
No
This
due
document questions
has
the
title
buyer
It was
diligence
l-31-OO.doc
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
produced
by Deutsche Do you have
Bank
any reason
was to
believe by
this
is
document
that
prepared
Deutsche
Bank
We typically track would use this format and questions
to in
track
deals
diligence
deals
Would someone
on
your
--
is
it this
likely
that to for
some6ne assist
on your with
the
team
due
created diligence
document process
CPS
Yes
Looking down
on the at the
--
questions and
this
that
is
run
first column DBSI 000657
--
starting
to
Page
does issues
this appear
indicate
questions
or
raised by parties
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Morrison Christina
that
were
performing
due
diligence
on
CPS
Yes
And by column
is to sort of that the
companies
in
the
requested then there
CVS Bain
an all
at
Priority and
does that
parties
those
indicate
you
least
three companies
at the
CVS
Bain
and due
Priority were
diligence on
time
performing
CPS
Yes
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
lot or of the Is
the due
diligence
of an
performed acquisition performed
of the
by
companies similar to Deutsche
at
this stage due
the
diligence
by
Bank
prior to offering
issuing
confidential
memorandum
Object
to the
MR KIPNES
question sorry
Could
form
Im
repeat
you
rephrase that
that
Is
the due
diligence
of an
performed acquisition performed
by
companies similar to Deutsche offering
at
this stage due
the
diligence
by
Bank
prior to
issuing
confidential
memorandum
Typically companies
we
will go
at
into that
more
detail
than
might have
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Morrison Christina
point
so
in
time because would than
So
this is their business
lot
they
have
we
more detailed have come up
questions
would
--
with
they were
their due specific
diligence form of
due
is
very
detailed
very
diligence
MR KIPNES
of the
Object
to
the
form
question
typically would
this
Companies 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
of of for call
will go
in this
into
more detail
than
have
process
During regular
process
to
were
you making
of
presentations
Corams board
directors
would into board periodically meeting
to
be
asked
an
to
provide
update
And you did that by
phone
Yes
MR
BPAtJNIG
Can we
mark
this
Exhibit Morrison
10
please
10 was
Morrison Exhibit identification
These are minutes of
marked
the
Coram
of the
board board
directors telephonic
directors
of
meeting
Coram Healthcare
Corporation
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Morrison Christina
On Page labeled
is
of
this document COR-EQTY
also there
Bates-stamped that
0014712
section
reads
CPS Auction
having
Update
Do you with
the
recall
of
conversation
this
board
directors
around
time
around
February Not
10
200Q date but
of
that
specific several
yes
had
conversations
them during
2000
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
We 2000 sort that of this
And process Was
was your understanding
--
during
strike
that
in
your
understanding going
to
February and
see
Coram
was
wait
what
bids were
to sell
received
before
deciding
whether
CPS
Objection
MR GANBINO
You can
answer
specifically about
didnt talk
that about what
was just
they might or forward on
might not
sale of
do
the
moving
the
21
22 23 24 25
business
was what
and
bringing
things
forward
That
my job
Do
was
recall
for if the
you
any bids were
CPS
received
by Coram Received
unit
by
Coram
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Morrison Christina
Did
any
companies
bid
on
CPS
Ill rephrase that
Following performed did any of offer
for the due
diligence
CVS
that
was
by at those
the
least
Bain
and
ProCare
formal
companies
issue
CPS
unit
remember who
dont
there was
--
did
think
dont
remember
MR
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 able
to for
BRAtJNIG
Lets mark
this
Morrison
11
please
11 was
Morrison Exhibit identification
is
marked
this
document
that
you
recognize
Yes
What This from CVS
is is this the
document
bid letter from March
ProCare
And
its addressed
to
you
Correct
And
in the
second
CVS CPS
paragraph
are
you
determine
to
what
the
ProCare was
prepared
pay
for
unit
$34.5 And
million
know
if
--
do you
were
there
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conditions acquisition
that
were
placed
on
this
price dont
recall
tell is me
that
what holdback where
Can you
is
holcthack of the
typically
is kept
part
in
purchase until
is
price
usually
or
escrow
some milestone
is met
something then 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 reaction will not
are the
achieved
at
which
point
its
paid
out
So
an
offer that cash
includes those some
holdback conditions
provide
--
until
met cash
will not those
provide
percentage
are
of
until
conditions
met
Correct
What
--
is
your recollection
of
Corams
to
lets strike that
want
go
back
Do you know the
in
if
Coram unit
received
any initial
other bids for four involved
CPS
from those
due
diligence
this
No
only
think
the
was
--
this is
see
the
22
23 24 25
one
Its
What
only letter
here
of
was
your understanding
to this
Corams reaction
bid
Objection
to
MR GAMBINO
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form Understanding
had recall
if it was
conversation Dan Crowley was
with or the
that
--
dont
entire
he
board
like
but
the
Dans
response that going going
if
didnt
price
and
this was
the
we
highest would
--
they were
he So
to to
go
then
the
wasnt
what
to
sell
business
that the
he
Dan walk
informed away
if
you
was
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
was
prepared
this were
only
bid
Correct
Do you recall those any.board
participation
in
discussions
dont
MR BRAUNIG
exhibit Morrison
Lets mark
this
12
12
Morrison Exhibit
for
was
marked
identification
These
are
minutes of
of
telephonic
of
21
22 23 24 25
meeting
of
the
board
directors They
are
Coram
Healthcare
Corporation
COR-EQTY
Bates-stamped
0014723
in
Do you telephonic
recall participating
on or
meeting
around March
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do
not you
recall
on
the call
Were
of the
when
or
the board
to
directors
decided
whether
not
approve
transaction
dont
Do you ultimately
recall know
if
was
or
not
whether
the
the board
approved they
transaction
Yes
Do 10 11 12
13 was
did
whether
that
you
know
approval
unanimous
dont
Did Coram you
know
do
any additional
work
for
after June Dan called
2000
and
to
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
asked them
if
would some
be
interested potential
in sort of
in
talking
about
financing the
alternatives
of
which
to see
did
if
context
pitch
that
there was
anything work
additional
that
could
--
any additional
could
to of do
be
done
So It
it
wasnt
was
--
wasnt
hired context
anything pitch
an
really in the
investigation Did interested early stage
in
Dan
tell
you
why he
was of
this
pitch
in this sort
investigation
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He was financing what
looking
for
alternative and wanted
to see
sources
for Coram
was
potentially
Let me
available
you document marked
hand
Morrison
20
Morrison Exhibit
20
was
marked
for
identification
Miss
Morrison
do
you
recognize
this
document
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 had
at he
Yes
What This presented were
in is is
this document what prepared what
Morrison and
20
terms of
for
potential raising
the
options
available Did
Coram
it
for
capital
of
you
share
with
board
directors
dont
went
to
recall
who
this
presentation
specifically
When Dan Crowley options
at
engaged
of
you
to
look did
these
different Stark
II
financing
mention
all
engaged said
on It
Well
request
It
wasnt was
like
was
just
pitch
Page to
Yeah until
forgotten that
it
saw this
was in
relationship
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Does
as to
thisrefresh your recollection
or
whether
not
the
--
what
Deutsche
of
Bank
concluded
about
viability
these
options
Yes
And That alternatives were viable 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 any options date
of So
what
it
--
is your was
--
recollection
the the
now
that
of
that
none
alternatives
in Deutsche of
Banks
opinion
that
these
four
options
as
were ways that were
considered
to of
by Deutsche
Bank
potential and
raise financing Deutsche
to
your that
conclusion none
of
Bank
was
these
available
Coram time time
time was
this
At that At that And
the
that
July
31
2000
the
minutes of
meeting
Yes
Did that the board you would discuss
lay out
with and
you
the
their
viability
dont
specific
recall
anything around
specific
discussion
it
think
MR BRAUNIG
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Q.
And in the confidential offering
3
1
memorandum that net revenue figure for 2001 was projected at 225 million?
MR. BRAUNIG:
4
Objection. Still
5
lacks foundation.
Q.
Is that correct?
Yes. CuraScript came into being on or
A.
Q.
9
around August 1, 2000; is that right? A. .Yes. This presentation'document is dated
10
11
12
Q.
~ecernber'-- the front page is dated on December 20.00?
13
14 15
16
17
18
'
A.
Q.
Yes. Did Deutsche Bank actually make - -
did Deutsche Bank submit this document 'to
GTCR, do you recall,."this document" being the
/ presentation to CuraScript?
l9
20 21 22 23
24
1
A.
Yes. The discussion on this
document was telephonic and it was with CuraScript and with GTCR.
Q.
Who was on the phone on behalf of
CuraScript?
A.
I remember Dom Meffe was.
I don't
25
1 recall if anyone else was.
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Q.
Were there any changes between
August 1, 2 0 0 0 and December 2 0 0 0 to the business of what was CPS and is now CuraScript - - or was now CuraScript? MR. BRAUNIG: form. . A.
'
Objection to
I only recall having very cursory
conversations in terms of what GTCR1s plans were, putting more money in the company and investing in it.
I don't know any of the
specifics of it at that point between the c1,oseo'f the transaction and this presentation.
Q.
When you made this telephonic
presentation, did you think you were talking about the same.company that you had sold to GTCR? A.
Q.
No. And in what ways did you think the
company was different? A. It now had a source of financing.
GTCR had been very open in conversations that they were willing to invest in this business and to try to find ways to help it grow.
Q.
Was the core business of CPS the
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questions I have. Thank you, Miss Morrison. MR. BRAUNIG: record real quick? VIDEO TECHNICIAN: We are now off the record at 3:lO. (Short recess.) VIDEO TECHNICIAN: We are now on the record at 3:14. BY MR. BRAUNIG: Can we go off the
Q.
Miss Morrison, Mr. Kipnes showed you
a document, Morrison 23, which was a presentation to CuraScript, Inc., and GTCR in December 2000.
A.
Yes. Do you recall whether GTCR had
Q.
acquired any other companies after buying CPS? A. There were some discussions of a
couple businesses and I know at some point, and I don't recall when, they bought an oncology business out of Baltimore, and I don't recall when that was, but there was an oncology business that was acquired at some point after this.
Q.
Does the name OncoScripts refresh
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your recollection?
A.
.Q.
Yes. Do you recall when that acquisition
took place?
MR. KIPNES:
Objection. Asked
and 'answered.
A.
.Q.
I don't recall.
If that acquisition had occurred
prior to December.200.0, would you expect that those numbers would be reflected in the net revenue cited on Page 34, DBSI 008083?
.
.
MR. KIPNES:
question. Overbroad.
Object to the ~ncomplete
hypothetical.
MR. BRAUNIG:
it.
Q.
I will rephrase
Mr. Kipnes pointed you to. the net
revenue projections for 2000 through 2005 on. Page 34, correct?
A.
Q.
.
Yes.
And he asked you a series of
questions about why the net revenue in 2000 shown for 2000 might have been different from earlier figures that had been referenced in other documents; is that correct?
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contained
evidence
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stenographic March
Monday
true and
26
2007
correct
transcript
same
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this
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IN THE FOR UNITED THE STATES DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT OF DELAWARE
Cop
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DANIEL
CASE NO 04-1565
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AMARAL
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CASEY
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have Almost appointment
was
to
go back
little
of
bit
my
from the tenure
outset
and
the
equity and
group which
led in large
to
counseled by Don
by Richard
Levy
part
Liebentritt
continued
the
make
strong should board
recommendations
do of
that
trustees
of
something directors Dan And
about
of
the
members
the they
Coram
and
the way
appointed 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to
Crowley
interpreted
as
their strong recommendation Coram that the
to
protestations
to take
being
to
legal
action was
compensate damage had Coram
for
what
they
thought
of
the
appointment
Dan
Crowley
to
caused
Coram
of
and
the
ensuing
So
damage
it
because
his
conflict
of
that
was
continuing
to
matter
communication
from them
me
Isnt
urge you others
to
it sue
true sir that they began
Mr Crowley
week
or two
the of
directors
your being
and
within
the
appointed
A.-
trustee
know that can say within
dont
shortly And was
week
but
thereafter
there relationship you
to sue in
your
mind between
their urging
Dan
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When
you
disqualify
the
judge
for
example
because
judge ask
is
may know
the
party
to
litigation you dont
question
going way
to to
well specifically
prejudice the you
is
how
that
judge
say that such that
There the
it
is no
know
that
but
possibility of
is
prejudice judge
the to
better
for the And
it is
recuse
himself with
or herself or
same thing run the
CEO
trustee
so to
You
at
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
cant
least
clock
backwards
speak
cant
Didnt you try retrospectively
to
ascertain respect
the to
the
intent
of
Dan
Crowley
with over
of
this
conflict
of
when you
in or
took
trusteeship
Coram
about
March
2003
No
conflict
the stop
assumed
it was
that
there was
and
bad
for the
company
he put
and
question
to
in my mind was He
could
it
had had
assured stop
me that
to
not And
only he even
could though
but
put
some
it
in my of
questions
mind
the
so-called
gave
him the benefit
time
doubt
At that Crowley had
you
knew
that
Dan
large
financial
claim against
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Coram
correct
He
told
me
that that right
it
And
you understood
Well
he
didnt know what
they owed him
was
deal
but
of
told
me
that
good
money
Did you owed ask him how much money they
him
dont
recall that understand money that
did
that
he he
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 minute
get to
Did you trying to him from get
the
was
said they owed
them
He
told
me
that it
correct
at
And
you understood had no
Well
disbelieve
reason
that
time
him
he
didnt know what the
said that
facts
were but
Im
trying
to
get
it
Im
ago
sorry
ththk
he
misspoke was trying
to
when
said that
money
from Coram understood And think
meant
Cerberus
that
you understood
--
did
--
did
meant
that
Cerberus but
did
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misspeak
and
want
to
apologize
Idid
Did having
he
you understand discussions that
he
when
you
were and
these you
with
Mr
Crowley
told
had
claim against
to
Cerberus
that
he
that
his efforts Cerberus
obtain
the
money
believed
owed
him was
an
ongoing
process Well
Im
not
sure
understand
what you
10 11
12
you mean by ongoing exactly what
process
and
Ill
you
tell
understood
can
label
it
understood believed that Cerberus that owed Dan Crowley
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that going
to
him Dan Crowley
for
substantial Dan Crowley and
to
sum of money claimed that that
he was he
services rendered
to
that
to
had
Cerberus anything
anxious not
do
prejudice
he
his ability to
collect
it
Thats what
And be
told
me
so
accepted
that
it
did you trying
to
understand collect think
he was
it
went
if
Oh
far
the
dont
not
my thinking
to
Im
surprised
hear
it
thats
fact that
but
dont
think
understood
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Did issue between That
you Dan
decide
that and
that
was
an
Crowley
Cerberus
accepted
did decide
yes
that
In
reaching
that
decision
was
it
your understanding matter
the
that
the
issue that Cerberus certain
was
between by
Crowley Cerberus
and
of
involved amount
of
payment
to
money 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to
Dan
Crowley
MR BRESSLER
form
You may answer
In
Object
to
the
general
sort of
way
clear Dan
And you
in
wasnt
it
also perfectly decision
to that
reaching going
that
to
Crowley efforts
was to
continue
pursue
get paid yon
by Cerberus use the words
Well
perfectly
but my
clear
Nothing was
was
perfectly
he
clear
understanding
that that
that
still considered and
that
Cerberus
he
owed
him money that
he
that
hoped
he
would
be paid
do
money
to
and
didnt want to
ability amount
to
anything
prejudice
his
the
get
paidthat money whatever dont
know what
the
was
amount
was
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