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FRIEDMAN could their
read
The
board
do
members you
see
next
renewed
discussion Yes
Does
that
do
that
paragraph the
to 11
relate
to
what
of an
we
were
just discussing third party
in the
selection
the
independent processes
review
debtors
Chapter
organization
proceeding
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
is
Yes
And paragraph
the the last
sentence
of
that
of
says
The
to
independent hold
members
Board
decided
call
telephone
to
conference potential selection
amongst
themselves
discuss
the
third-party
candidates
and
process
Yes
Is
that when
what you
you said
were
referring to Crowley
to the
moment
ago
Nr
wouldnt have
selection advisor together
or
role
with
of the
respect
the
--
or production his role new
or
independent
or putting
plan
this is the first in
Well
that he
step
the
This
would
have
no
role
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FRIEDMAN selection
was of in the
independent
to
party
no
The
in
idea the
that
addition
having no
role in
selection
process
hed
also have
role
the
plan
going And
forward
to
your
knowledge
of the
did he
have
role in
the
selection
independent
restructuring
advisor
believe
he
dont
10 role 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
the Is in
did
did he have
And
the of
to
your knowledge
restructuring
his he
advisors
preparation
report
certainly
was
Well
by the
interviewed
restructuring Beyond
advisor
interviewed by the
being
restructuring
advisor
believe
he
dont
it in
had
any
role
he
your understanding
the
that the
had
any role
preparation interviewed
of
second
plan beyond being
restructuring
by the
advisor
believe
the
it
dont
operative
if
he
had
role
in
terms of on
plan
or
dont
but
know
he
commented
he
not
in
dont believe
had
any
role
the
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FRIEDMAN operative
terms
Did you have any discussions January
2000
again
now
in
this December
2000
Crowley
time frame with
Mr
the
regarding
of
this
topic
That
is
retention
an
independent MR
restructuring
advisor
BRESSLER
assume
Ill object
January
to
the
form
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Thank
you mean
2001
MR SLAUGHTER
you
Yes
apologize
Im
Do
sure
did them
just conceptual specific back
you
recall
only recall
discussions
and
dont
recall
forth
Conceptually Conceptually what
do
you
recall
discussed
the
believe based that upon
he
with him the
fact
that
judges
ruling
himself Coram
it
was
--
essential
excise relating
to
from
from everything
the
other than
that he
operation
--
of he
the
business
had
that
needed
to
be
disassociated going
from the and
in
reorganization
plan
to
forward
particular
anything
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FRIEDMAN do with treatment
of
creditors
or
shareholders
Did you about Cerberus
Not
at
have
the
discussion
with
him
time
recall
that
You work
for
knew
that
he
was
continuing
to
Cerberus
with
respect
to non-Coram
matters
though
correct
for
dont know know Okay
procedure preparation Why
sure
dont
would
not
you
set
up
in the
in which of the
hes
involved
if he
second
plan
to
wasnt
--
wasnt continuing
arrangement
or
have with
consulting Cerberus
relationship
going
forward
--
think relationship court found with
to be
think
his
historical
the
Cerberus
was
something and
in in which not
meaningful
of the
particular came did
at to at
because and
manner
was was was
it he
light
my concern My certain
what
he
Cerberus
And
what
did
Coram
at
thought
not
it
important role
in
that
Coram he
have
any
further
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FRIEDMAN
the
development Did
or
prosecution ever tell
of
plan
that
in
you
Mr
Crowley
he should
the
resign
completely January think
from Cerberus
2001
December
2000 dont
time told
frame
he
ever
him
had to
resign
Are you aware
the of
anything
that from
2000
would 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 have would
have
prevented
Coram board
in
terminating after the
Mr
Crowley was
December
first plan
denied
what
that
Im
contractual At least
not
familiar with were
on
his
arrangements not
issue
Im
now
But
Okay
contractual anything board
beyond
any
specific
of
arrangements
would have
are
you aware
the
that
prevented
Coram
from saying
Youre fired
No
Are you have aware
the of
anything
that
prevented
Coram board
sure that
from you
saying
do
stay on but make
further other with
dont
anything
In
Cerberus
the
words could
continuing
board
at
conditioned
his
retention
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FRIEDMAN Coram
on his
no
longer
working
for
Cerberus
Yes
Im
made that
sure
they
could
have
made
--
demand
Do you know
if
they
did
dont
By again 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
the idea first this
know time and by
Wairath
has this
time
the
mean
Judge
denied
plan Mr
is
Crowleys
relationship well-known
with
Cerberus
an obviously
fact
correct
Yes
So
who
was
hired
as
the
independent
restructuring
advisor
Golden recall
came up with
Harrison
Who
of
if you
hiring
Mr Golden
--
dont
also were how
or
dont
--
remember
that others
20
21 22 23 24 25
dont
know
that as
believe
considered
he was
well but
in the
dont
first
recall
considered
instance
who
considered Had you
hiring worked
him
with Goldin
on
any
matters
before
Coram
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FRIEDMAN appointment No members
at of of
Goldin
the
in
the
debtors
cases
were
debtors
management
present
such
Is
meeting
trying to
the the was that impart the of the
that that
information
special
--
committee without
was the
input
Mr
Crowley
Goldin
entity
his
that
retaining
Mr
seeking 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
that an
if
appointment
think
thats true
was your view approved
the at the
And
the
it
time
of as
court
retention such and
that be
independent and
restructuring
the
advisor
--
Mr Goldin
Goldin
the
--
Goldin
report
produced
that
report
or this
that plan plan
--
found should
plan and
that
confirmed
obviously
prepared
that
as
weve
discussed
the
was of
not
was
without would
be
input
Mr Crowley
to
that
20
21 22 23 24 25
sufficient with
overcome
to
the
judges
concerns
respect get
Mr Crowleys
confirmed
for
involvement
and
plan
Coram
MR
form
BRESSIjER
Ill object
to
the
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FRIEDMAN THE that
WITNESS
Could
you read back
question
MR
artfully
SLAUGHTER stated
but
It
wasnt
the
it
most
please
read
back
portion
of
the Also
record object
was to
read
the
MR NOVICK
form
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 doing no
in If
can
just
answer
it We
this
way
we was
and
maybe
this will with what
We
suffice
had
were
confronted unique
in my experience
dilemma
was
had
an
CEO
who
by all running talking
accounts
the
doing and
so
excellent
job
company
firing At such
there was
no one
about
Crowley
the good
same
time this
CEO
who
was
was
job running mandate
to
the
company
longer
its
with
lead the
company
of the
reorganization made
we
process
bankruptcy
because
findings
so the
by the
to
court
was to
And retain
what
hoped
of
accomplish
as the
benefits
the as
Crowley
time
operator
taint of
while at Crowley
same plan
lose the and
sponsor
negotiator
and
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FRIEDMAN Goldin upon new would take over
that we
role and based
would any then
input file
his
recommendations
that
plan
no
longer
had
from
Crowley
And described process
in
this process your previous you recommended
in
that
you
just
answer
that to
was the
that
special
committee 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
to of that
adopt
response
Judge
Wairaths
order
would say endorsed
it
dont
at
recall whether least
or in my
--
recommendation
implies
that
mind some initiative
taken
but
may
may not
have
certainly
endorsed
it Well
it
wasnt
by
--
it
wasnt
was
plan
was
developed Are you
Mr Crowley
about
the
it
talking
retention
an
independent
restructuring idea
that
--
advisor
the
Yes
Judge
to
this
response were
Wairaths
go
order and getting
how
you
going
about
second
plan
approved
It
was
not
something
that was
Mr
Crowley
sponsored
no
It
something
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FRIEDMAN
attend
specific
but beyond
that
dont
recall
meetings
MR SLAUGHTER
record
to
Lets tape
go
off
the
change
the
THE end the
off of
VIDEOGRZPHER
number
of
This marks volume
the in
videotape
deposition
David time
is
Friedman
Going
record
The
1144
a.m
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 THE
brief recess
was
taken
This marks volume
the in The
VIDEOGRAPHER
of tape of
beginning
the
number David
deposition
is
Friedman
time
1153 a.m
continue
was
Please
Mr
quote
Goldin
labeled
as
the
independent
close
In
quote
your experience
he in fact an he in
restructuring
the
advisor
did he
--
process
was
20
21 22 23 24
independent
act
restructuring
advisor
Did
independently
Yes
Was not
absolutely
one
--
do
you
his
recall draft
whether
or
when
he
distributed having been
plan
special
25
whether
he
hired
by the
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FRIEDMAN
committee gave
look
all at it or
the
special
he at
committee
it
first
to
whether parties
distributed
the same to that at the
interested
time form
MR NOVICK
Object
is
the he
My recollection distributed
it to
everybody
it your
same
time
that
And
was
recollection
in the
Mr
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
-23
Crowley
did not
participate
special
to
committees deliberations
if at
about
how
respond
all to
the
draft
report
Thats correct
Do special you recall
to
meeting
the
with
the
committee
discuss
draft Goldin
report
would think
did but
dont
recall
Do special you recall whether you
or
not
--
the
committee whether
and
strike
that Lets
Do
start with recall
good
question
special
you any
whether on
the
committee Goldin
had
comments
the
draft
24 25
report
No
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David
FRIEDMAN Do you comments comments on on the
the
recall whether
--
you had
any any
you
or
your firm had
draft Goldin
report
No
Do committee Goldin you recall whether
the the
special
of the
adopted
recommendations
report
believe
it
did
direct
in in
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Meeting
of of of
MR SLAUGHTER
attention
your
the
again
counsel
you have
board
of
minutes pile that you
to the
front
July
12
2001
board
minutes
Exhibit
ii
July
MR NOVICK
MR.
12th
SLAUGHTER
July
12
2001
Miiiutes
Exhibit Friedmanli Draft
Meeting
of the
Board
of
Directors
Coram Healthcare
Corporation
for
July
12
2001 marked
this
identification Exhibit
the
11
date
Minutes
of of
says
of
the
Board
Directors
Coram
Healthcare labeled
Corporation July 12
on
200l
Its
25
Draft
it but
will
represent
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FRIEDMAN
to
you
that
this was
produced
the
to
us
recently
we
by the
so
trustee know
and
if
is
only copy
have
dont
there was
further
version
And present
at
it
indicates
here
that
you
were
that
meeting
Mr Friedman
Yes
And
just that was
leafing
the the
through
it
it
10
11 12 13 14
appears
at that
to
be
principal Goldin
discussion
meeting
Associates
report
Yes
On page Goldin Associates paragraph
the that in that
--
under
the
15
16
heading
theres
Friedman which advised
the the of
says
Mr
on
17
18
exclusivity and
period
within
Company
Coram
file
Inc
an the
collectively plan
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
debtors
could
amended
reorganization
with
bankruptcy and advised
court
on the he was
Mr
Friedman
the
discussed directors from the special
see
duties of seeking meetings
stating
that
input as
independent
board
the
committee
Do
you
that
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FRIEDMAN
Yes
Do you recall recall
do
that
the
discussion
specifics that
it of the
dont
discussion
but
recall
took
place
Do you
the
recall
if
not
the
specifics
general
substance
think
so
you
of the
yes
recall that about
the
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
the
What general
do
substance think
discussion
substance
of
general
the
discussion
was
--
that
independent
to take
--
directors needed provide company respect product
that to
should
--
needed
direction
needed what the with work
to
not
take with
direction respect going they
direction should
to of be
to
doing
that
forward had
the
plan
Goldin Associates upon
the that
before
them and
20 21
22 23 24 25
based
in
and
without they goes
including should
in
Crowley
discussion
the
determine where
its
company
terms of
ongoing
reorganization think you put
efforts
in
right there one
to
of
my follow-up
questions
was going
be
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FRIEDMAN
Was
--
when you
are talking members
are the of
about
the
the
independent
board
special
committee those
excluding
board
members
Mr Crowley
Correct
Do you recall getting
in
direction
to
from the
that
special
committee
response
request
recall receiving
that
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 invited
to
direction
the
to
proceed
with
plan
of
embodied
recommendations
Is
Goldin
what you
that
did
Yes
One of the
recommendations
that
the
Goldin bonus
report
made was
be
Mr
Crowleys
Do you recall
compensation
reduced
that Yes
Do opinion
was
you
in
recall
what
Mr Crowleys
that
regard
think respond
that to
Mr
the
Crowley board
was
that
about
reommendation
was that he
and
believe
his
response
didnt think
it was
appropriate
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Friedman, David M.
FRIEDMAN
position now to
--
to comment on the
existence or quality of evidence.
Q.
Was it - - you say that you were a
scribe or a conduit to the special committee in this instance, do you recall if you made recommendations to the special committee about corrections they may want to suggest to Goldin Associates with respect to the draft report? A. I don't recall - - I don't recall
havlng a particular lnterest in these comments. I think these are comments that,
you know, generally are of a business nature, and I don't know that I have much of a role, but again,'I really don't recall.
Q.
I think you testified that in
response to the direction from the special committee, you prepared a second plan and disclosure statement? A.
Q.
Yes.
And that that second plan and
disclosure statement largely adopted the recommendations of the Goldin report? A. Yes.
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FRIEDMAN regard was
facts as
based knew
on your them
at
knowledge
the
of
the
you
time
--
Yeah
almost entirely
it was on
based
it was
based
it
my understanding
that fair
was
as
understood by which
was the
it
it
was was
process entity
company
it
sold
this
sold
and
was
sold at
arms
length
10 11
12
Were time or were
this
you
aware
at
that
the
at
the
you
aware
of
any
time either
--
time
the
time
your interview
13
14
strike
that
Were you aware
at
any
time
that
the
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
sale
of
CPS as
was begun
prior to
Mr Crowleys
tenure
the
CEO
knew made
it at the of
think because think
we
time
that in
point
court
Were
sale of CPS was
you
aware
at
the
time full
that
the
approved
by the
Coram
board
think The next was aware
of
that yes
says
Do you know
bullet no
point
paydown
of
debt
damages
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FRIEDMAN what
that
refers
to
that down prior to
the
recall vaguely bankruptcy certainly and
the
Coram
had
paid
either
principle interest and on
they had
paid
down down
some some
believe debt
they paid
owed to
Cerberus
Goldman
Foothill
Okay
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 never any cash
the
And company that any
it
didnt think
damages
could
that
that the
caused
because caused
only have
damages been think any
the
have
would
relating
the
to
liquidity and
as
didnt it had
is
company
understood
In fact this
liquidity issues
few
one
of
companies did not
that
Ive
been
involved
with
that
require financing during
the
debtor-in-possession course
of the
bankruptcy
that its it
Indicating flows to cover
had
sufficient
opeIations
Correct
Next bullet point
at
says
There was
meeting
suggestion
any board
paren
including
privileged
apostrophe
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T1
CERTIFICATE
STATE OF NEW OF NEW
YORK
SS
COUNTY
YORK
JENNIFER OCANPO-GtJZMAN Shorthand
and for
Reporter and
State of
Notary
Public do
within
the
New
York
hereby
certify
That
10
DAVID
is
FRIEDMAN
hereinijefore
the set
witness
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point
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the in which of
you
he
represented had
Mr
Zell
as
--
or any
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interest
prior to
summer
2000 dont believe so
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of
you-- withdrawn
you ever represented Weinstein
or the
economic Zell
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litigation Who Jenner
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question
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lets start with you Richard
Levy
you
or
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represented
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interests
of
Mr
Zell
Mr
Weinstein
in bankruptcy
litigation
other You
than
Coram
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know
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of
company
called
Coram
Healthcare
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first heard
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spring
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late
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hear
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to
Weinstein did you
called say to
me
what
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him and
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say
you
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MR TOMASHEFSKY Mr Levy
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MR PETERS
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this
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need
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my attorney on
but on the
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privilege
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wont
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stop
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about
Coram
just
cant
lot do
approximate
of
it
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Sam Zell
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law
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for At that the
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in
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2000
with
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Zell he
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toCoram
interest
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did you
in
understand
that
had
economic
Coram Yes
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interest
yes
as
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to
whats been
letter dated
do
marked June
Levy
of 2000
which Dan
is
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Levy Deposition
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as
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was
marked
requested
certainly BY recognize my signature
20 21
22 23 24 you
MR PETERS
Do
you
recognize dated
that
to
be
letter
from
to
Dan
Crowley
June
1st 2000
me
MR TOMASHEFSKY
please
give
moment
to
read
it
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Yes
BY
MR PETERS
At the
time you
wrote
this had you ever
met Richard
Haydon dont believe so
though
cant
be
certain
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time you had you
spoke ever
--
at
the to
time you Richard
wrote
this
letter
spoken
HaydOn
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 Haydon Will Richard
Yes
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was the first
time you
spoke
to
Haydon
Sometime between
the
my initial
of
conversation And
with Weinstein
and
date
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before
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conversation
Weinstein
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know
reason
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you
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this
21
22 23 24
letter on
behalf
Mr
Haydon
rather
Mr
Weinstein
dont
Was
know
Weinstein also your client
at the
Mr
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the
SEC
web
site of
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to
recognize be filed
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the
as
Form
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of
with
SEC on or
about
July 27th
2000
Yes10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
was an BY
MR TOMASHEFSKY
question
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form of
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MR PETERS
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represent this the
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there
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the
2000 and
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then
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filing on
27th
2000
amended
filing from July
27th
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didnt want didnt feel
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to
mark
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necessary
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representation 27th
of
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2000 were you
entities
on
the
list
persons
the
and
page
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appear
alongside
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Group Members
the
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page
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 were equity persons Coram
as
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PETERS
Right
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MR PETERS
How and
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entities July
of
listed here
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think
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forth in some
form
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aware
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requires right
--
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owning
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and
of
think the
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securities necessary filing reflect
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to
membership
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thats how
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represent
to
people
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came
represent
people
10 and persons 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 member
of
Were
that
several were
of
the
entities
of
that
wer.e
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member
this group
associated
with Will
Weinstein
what
dont know
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associated means
member
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group
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Will
Weinstein
Revocable
Trust
group
everybody
on the list
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on page
one
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group
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Okay
Sam Zell
Samstock
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an
entity
in which
21
22 23 24
and
his
family members
economic
interest
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understand
you
so
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understand
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the
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dont
Is
recall
Lurie that
Probably
and Robert Lurie
at
the Ann entity
Family
the
Foundation
was
--
an
you
understood
in
time
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assets were
managed
part
by Will
Weinstein
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--
know
what
manaed
means
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the
answer Did
is using your word no
you understand role Lurie that
/8
Mr
Weinstein
the
in
2000
had
any
advising and Ann think he
with
respectto
assets
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
of
the
Robert
Family Foundation
did
in
Did you Baidridge
was
understand
to
2000
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Michiko
in
an
assistant
Will
Weinstein
his
office
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of
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Osher
Trust were
clients
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presently
recall
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21
22 23 24 referred
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ita
this
fair statement
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together
group
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to
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everyone
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or
Weinstein
to
me
someone
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else at Aitheimer
--
Gray for securities Weinstein you
the
purposes
of
complying
with Was
the
law yes
paying you
to do
Mr
this or
was
someone
else paying can give that
to
do
this
that
you
is that
recollection nobody
was
think
me at
is the
correct
and
paying
time
But
think
--
and
Im
were
not
certain
--
that
after Altheimer 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
that
Gray and counsel
to
appointed
by the
Bankruptcy
that we
Court as
to
the Equity
fee
Committee
were permitted
file
application
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which done
retrospectively pre filing and
included think
work
had
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thats how
were
paid
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am
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years
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recollection
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at
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time
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filed
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subsequently
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payment
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Coram bankruptcy
estate not didnt know
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MR TOMASHEFSKY
yes or
You
can
answer
that
no
Not
that
recall
BY
MR PETERS
Did you ever have any such discussions
with
Don
Liebentritt
MR TOMASHEFSKY
answer
that
Again
caution have
you
to
question
yes or no
if you
recollection 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 person stock plan were had you been BY have no
recollection
MR PETERS
As of
August
if was
9th
of
2000 you were aware
bankruptcy Coram plan
that
not
that
the
Coram
proposed
confirmed
stock
would
be
worth
nothing Well
as
they
say asked
and
answered
Yes
Were could you
to
also aware make money
of 2000
that
th.e
only way Coram
hope
purchasing
if
20 21
22 23
on August
9th
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bankruptcy
were defeated
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answer
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form
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24
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if
the
opposite was
of
defeated
is
--
if
it
was
--
sure
yes
BY
aware
MR PETERS
And
it was
your
job on August
--
9th
of
2000
to
defeat
the
Coram bankruptcy
is
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is
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its
offensive Ny
facts job was to
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laws
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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
appointed
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by the
Court for
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the
purchases ability of
of
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on your ability
defeat
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bankruptcy
MR TOMASHEFSKY
the
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question
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MR PETERS
Did you ever
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MR TOMASHEFSKY
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Again
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answer
if
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on you
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gave
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its
instruction
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