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Q.
But there were phone calls between you and
Mr. Brininger about this case. MS. MARTIN: Objection. Correct? Just at the beginning.
MR. WILLIAMS: THE WITNESS: BY MR. WILLIAMS:
Q.
When was that phone call? I don't - - I don't recall. What did you tell Mr. Brininger on that phone
A.
Q.
call? MS. MARTIN: Objection.
Don't answer. BY MR. WILLIAMS:
Q.
Did you print these e-mails out from your
computer? A.
Q.
Yes. Did you take these e-mails and submit them to the
Department of Labor? A.
Q.
If there is in these books, yes. In fact, when you reference them way back on page
61, you describe these e-mails as being in the section, to Ms. Paradowski, as the - - "The attorneys we contacted seeking help, tried to rip us off," right?
A.
Yes. So you were sending these e-mails to
Q.
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Ms. Paradowski so that she could see what happened, right? A.
Q.
If they're in those three books, yes.
And they're in this book that's right in front of
you, right? A.
Q.
Yes. So you sharedthese e-mails with - - with the
Department of Labor, right? A.
Q.
Yes. Now, what did Mr. Brininger say to you on the
phone about the statute of limitations? MS. MARTIN: Objection.
Don't answer. MR. WILLIAMS: BY MR. WILLIAMS: 1'11 withdraw the question.
Q.
What did you tell Mr. Brininger on the phone
about what people at Allied knew in 1984? MS. MARTIN: Objection.
Don't answer. MR. WILLIAMS: For the record, the
defendant's position is that there was a subject matter waiver based on the e-mail communications that represent the totality of the e-mail communications between Mr. Gilmore and Mr. Brininger on the subjects that are discussed in these e-mail accounts, and that we're entitled to ask him about his telephone communications on
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those subjects . We're also of the view that there was no attorney-client privilege that inhered at the time that those phone calls were made and that we're entitled to inquire about them. I'd like to ask the question one more time. If you'd like to instruct him not to answer, that's your right, of course, but that's our position, and I think that it's pretty well founded. MS. MARTIN: again. You don't need to ask him I'm asserting
I've instructed him not to answer.
that there was attorney-client privilege, and that based on the conversation you're asking about, there had been no waiver of the attorney-client privilege at that juncture, and you're not entitled to inquire about that. And
your - - and your question assumes facts in (sic) evidence. MR. WILLIAMS: We'll - - we'll just - - we I 11
just make sure that the record is clear on this.
THE WITNESS:
BY MR. WILLIAMS:
Q.
Okay.
What did you tell Mr. Brininger about what was
known at Allied in 1984? MS. MARTIN: Objection on privilege. Don't answer. Objection. Objection to form.
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BY MR. WILLIAMS:
Q.
Did you tell Mr. Brininger anything about what
people at Allied knew in 1 9 8 4 ? MS. MARTIN: Objection.
Do not answer. BY MR. WILLIAMS:
Q.
Did you tell Mr. Brininger on the phone anything
about the statute of limitations? MS. MARTIN: Objection. Same.
Do not answer. BY MR. WILLIAMS:
Q.
During your phone conversations, did
Mr. Brininger tell you anything about the statute of limitations? MS. MARTIN: privilege grounds. MR. WILLIAMS: You're not going to let him Objection to form, objection on
answer any questions about this, Ms. Martin? MS. MARTIN: No. Notwithstanding the position
MR. WILLIAMS:
that we stated on the record? MS. MARTIN: Correct. We'll just move on. I'm
MR. WILLIAMS:
sorry that we can't complete this - - this area of inquiry.
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