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MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection
mischaracterizes his prior
testimony.
If there are outstanding documents I have
not reviewed there is always the potential that it
would change my opinion in some fashion, and the
same is true with your hypotheses that these
documents have not been
seen.
I don t know until
There may be some minor or maj or
reevaluation of my
see the documents.
opinion.
I wouldn t anticipate it but
it'
s possible.
You say you wouldn t anticipate
it.
What
do you think the likelihood is that more documents
would cause you to change the opinions that you
offering in exhibit one?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection, asked and
answered, calls for
speculation.
I don t know if I can assign a probability
to that.
Can you gl ve us any ballpark?
MR. SHULTIS:
Same obj ections .
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I don t think addi tional documents would
change the opinion
significantly.
What do you mean by significantly?
As I indicated, I can t put a numerical
probabili ty on that.
As I understood the way you were uslng
significantly "
in that sentence, you were using
that to indicate the extent of the change, not the
probabili ty of the change.
What do you mean by " significant"
Significantly is
significant.
m not
able to sit here and tell you that the eleven months
may become 11. 5 or 10.
Significant is
significant.
What about the part of your opinions that
attribute the causes of the delays you
ve identified
vague.
in each of the three Yankee ISFSI projects?
MR. SHULTIS:
Objection ,
not sure what you re asking about.
MR. SHAPIRO:
I haven t finished my
question yet.
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MR. SHULTIS:
Sorry.
What about -- let me start over
again.
In each of your opinions about a delay in
each of the three Yankee ISFSI projects you
a t
tribute a cause to that delay, don t you?
I do.
Is there a chance that your opinion as to
the cause of those delays would change if you review
more documents?
It'
the delay.
defini tely.
s possible, or at least a portion of
Perhaps it would be a portion
The eleven months might be ten months of one
and 1. 0 of something else if there was some
additional documentation that would yield
information on that.
Do you believe as you sit here today that
you had sufficient documentation to make the opinions that you made in exhibit one about the
causes of the delays you ve identified reliable?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection, asked and
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answered.
I believe they are reliable based on the
information that I have reviewed.
Also in each of the opinions about delay
of the ISFSI proj ect that you offered an opinion
that those delays were not related to any action or
inaction by the Department of Justice, is that
correct?
Department of Energy.
Department of Energy, is that correct?
Yes.
Is that part of your oplnlons that those
delays are not attributable to actions or inactions
of the Department of Energy, is that opinion subj ect
to change upon review of more documents?
It'
s possible.
Can you give me an example of a document
you might look at that would change that opinion?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection , calls for
speculation.
re in the process of looking at Yankee
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And the resulting inability to get a
building permit, yes.
You ascribe the eleven month delay in the
completion of fuel transfer to CY' s direction to
postpone construction work at the ISFSI , is that
correct?
Yes.
Do you have any opinion as to whether
Connecticut Yankee acted unreasonably in postponing
construction work of the ISFSI at that time?
I didn t offer an
opinion, no.
In fact, would you conclude that it was
reasonable for Connecticut Yankee to postpone
construction work in light of the inability to
obtain a building permit because of the zoning
dispute?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection, asked and
answered.
He said he didn t offer an opinion
yet.
If they don t have a building permit and
they are not permitted to do so by state law it may
be a reasonable
decision, yes.
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You
re not saying it'
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s Connecticut
Yankee s fault that completion of fuel transfer was
delayed eleven months?
I don t go to that
level.
I stop at
Connecticut Yankee essentially.
m not trying to assign delay to a
contractor or subcontractor.
m saying that
Connecticut Yankee suspended work and that' s not the
Department of Energy
s fault.
So I ascribe it to Connecticut Yankee.
you re asking me to take another step down, I
haven
t done that.
Why did you choose to phrase the cause of
the delay as Connecticut Yankee s direction to
postpone construction work as opposed to the town of
Haddam s refusal to issue a building permit?
As I indicated, I tried to keep it at the
level of the utility.
I think I did that on all of
them.
Paragraph four on page eight of exhibit one, you refer to an eleven month delay to the
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but the exhibit five, that addresses specific CPM
acti vi ties
that were identified on which the delay
was experienced.
Back to exhibit one, page nlne, paragraph
four, are you attributing any of the
16 month delay
to actions or inactions of Maine Yankee?
To the extent that Maine Yankee is
responsible for SWEC and NAC, the answer is
yes.
They hired SWEC and they hired NAC and they did some
of the work themselves on Maine Yankee, and so if
there was a delay on the proj ect,
the owner is
responsible.
Do you have an oplnlon as to whether or
not Maine Yankee s selection of SWEC was imprudent
in any way?
I do not have such an
oplnlon, no.
Do you have an opinion as to whether Maine
Yankee s subsequent decision to contract with NAC
was imprudent in any way?
I have no opinion,
no.
Do you have an opinion that Maine Yankee
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acted in an unreasonable manner in
its
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administration of its contracts with either SWEC or
NAC in any way?
I have not been that
specific, no.
Is there any fault that you have found
wi th
Maine Yankee contributing to the 16 month delay
that you note in paragraph four , page nine of
exhibit one?
MR. SHULTIS:
Objection ,
asked and
answered, assumes facts not in
evidence.
Exhibi t five are the reasons in my opinion
that the 16 month delay was -- the basis for the
cause of those delays.
Those are also shown as
activities on 0074.
The responsibility for execution of those
acti vi ties,
for example in period two, GTCC TSC
repairs, procedures and the GTCC loading was Maine
Yankee s responsibility.
Precisely when NAC picks
up that responsibility, I did not offer an opinion
on that.
Do you have any opinion as to why time was
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lost on GTCC procedure development and training and
GTCC TSC repairs?
It'
repalr.
s inconclusive pt this
time.
We know
that it was prolonged, that it took a long time to
Canister number 63, it was loaded last, the
procedures were not
done.
The precise cause of that
we did not yet determine.
You say it took a long time to load a
particular canister.
Long in comparison to what?
I don t have those figures with me.
were in the process of looking at those over the
last couple of weeks.
I don t have any hard dates for you in that
regard.
Do you have an oplnlon as to an
appropriate length of time it should take to load a
canister of GTCC waste?
not have
long
personal oplnlon
GTCC
how
takes
you
load
not
canister position
waste, no.
say
took
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an exceSSl ve amount of time to load?
I can measure it against the plan and
that' s what I' m doing.
Do you have an oplnlon as to whether or
not the plan was ambitious or conservative or right
on the money as to how long the timeframe should
be?
First of all, it was done out of sequence
so there really isn t a plan to do it in this
process.
The four month delay is borne out of the
late delivery of canister number 63 on April -- In
April and then what should have happened is the dry
run, testing and final procedures should have
started immediately, and all of that twelve months
is associated with events on the GTCC that was not
planned to occur during that time frame.
So the twelve month delay is borne out of
that delay.
Moving on In your oplnlons noted in
paragraph four ,
page nine of exhibit one with regard
to the 16 month delay in planned completion of the
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planned transfer you say this delay is not related to actions or inactions of the Department of
is that correct?
Energy,
Yes.
What' s the basis of that conclusion?
In reviewing the chronology in the
timeframe we just discussed here, early 2001 through
early 2002,
I saw no evidence that the Department of
Energy was responsible for any of
that.
Did you analyze any actions or inactions
of the Department of Energy on this issue, the 16
month delay in Maine Yankee?
The level of detail -- I have not seen
anything at this point in
time.
As I indicated earlier, this is being
studied in more detail and the details, the manner
in which this procedure,
development, training,
s being investigated.
TSC
repalrs and so
forth, it'
As far as you understand the
situation,
the Department of Energy simply wasn t involved in
those issues?
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s Maine Yankee or one of its
contractors that caused the
gap.
Suppose Maine Yankee is correct that
absent DOE' s breach of its spent fuel removal
contract, that it would not have built the
all but for the breach.
ISFSI at
In that instance would the delay be related
to inactions of DOE?
If the delay is caused by nonperformance
have a contractor
, I' m
not sure what the breach or
non-breach has to do with
of the work.
it. It'
s pure performance
My question is suppose the work didn
have to be done at all but for the breach?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection, asked and
answered.
Isn
t the party that caused the need for
the work to be done at all responsible?
There s always an obligation for the party
that is pursuing work to do it by mitigating
problems and doing it reasonably, pursuing that work
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consistent with industry standards.
Do you have an opinion that Maine Yankee
failed to act reasonably in any way with respect to
the 16 month delay that you are referring to in
exhibi t one, page nine?
The gap between the delivery of the
first
canister and the start of dry run is a year and the
plan shows no
gap.
If you ll see the one in the right hand
column, that is a credit of one month because the
fuel load was, in fact, accomplished during this
time and it comes off the ultimate load and
fuel
transfer activity at the bottom of the page, but that should not have happened, that whole
timeframe.
I don t think you quite answered my
question which is do you have an opinion that Maine
Yankee failed to act reasonably in any way with
respect to the 16 month delay that you opine about
on page nlne of exhibit one?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection , asked and
answered.
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Yes.
How did Maine Yankee act unreasonably?
In the fashion that I'
ve just indicated.
In period number one, it dealt with
inability to pursue the state permitting and construction for phase two, construction for phase
two of the ISFSI was substantially behind schedule
and the procedures,
development, training,
GTCC TSC
repairs, GTCC loading and transfer all exceeded the
original plan by twelve months.
I understand that the work took longer than the original plan but focusing again back on
paragraph four, page nine of exhibit one, where in
that paragraph or elsewhere in exhibit one do you
say that the 16 month delay is due to unreasonable
conduct by Maine Yankee?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection, asked and
answered.
It doesn t say but implicit in the
responsibili ty that Maine Yankee has for SWEC and
NAC, there was no one else doing the
work.
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What are you saYlng that Maine Yankee
should have done with respect to SWEC and NAC?
There were substantial problems.
They
should have either -- I can t speculate on what they
should have done but the problem should have been
resolved in some fashion or they have to accept the
repercussions, if you will, and the fuel loading was
late.
You say that Maine Yankee has acted
unreasonably.
What should they have done instead that
would have been reasonable?
MR. SHULTIS:
Obj ection,
mischaracterizes his
testimony.
m not sure I could answer the question
because Maine Yankee retained SWEC and NAC to do
their work.
If there s a delay in the work then the
responsibili ty lies with Maine Yankee because they
hired the
contractor.
Is that a legal oplnlon you re offering?
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Why is that Maine Yankee s responsibility?
When you
say they are responsible, I don t understand the
basis for that
statement.
hire a contractor to do work and
I f you
delay a bridge opening or whatever it may
the owner s responsibility.
be, it'
I f he seeks
to recover those damages from in
this case SWEC or NAC, that' s fine, but the ISFSI was not finished 16 months earlier and whatever
costs are different between wet and dry, it seems
like the Department of Energy should not pay those
costs.
But isn
offering?
Might have some legal
t that a legal opinion that you
overtones.
I don
know.
That'
s my opinion,
though.
How is that opinion informed by expertise?
How is the opinion?
Informed
Based
expertise.
experlence.
Anything else?
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No.
Back to part of exhibit four, the page
that ends in 0074.
Yes.
The ISFSI as- built
diagram.
Right about
In the middle of that page, maybe a little bit above
the middle, there s written there if I read this
correctly MY phase two construction is critical
path.
No confidence in
I believe it'
impact.
s BME' s
forecasts, delays have had an
for GTCC.
ISFSI ready
What' s being discussed in that text?
In the timeframe April , May, June, the
performance of the ISFSI subcontractor or contractor
lS poor.
They were behind schedule.
They were not
making progress whatsoever.
So that is a representation that the June
2001 comment, if you look at the
chronology,
probably get a little bit more information about
tha t
document.
The ISFSI ready for GTCC dated July 25, 2001
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