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l i e n n e t l ~M a n g ~ i i l ,
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attorneys.
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1111 w a i v e his p r e n e n c e f a r t i t i s .
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I h a v e a n a b h e r j ~ i r yq ~ ~ e ~ t , i o ~ i r ~ a i r e .
b u t since L
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gave yo3 one
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t o have one C u r tile record a s w s 1 . i .
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y O Gr
g i v e i t to
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t t ~ er e c o r u y d s t e r e i a y ,
s i n c e rsa talked f o r a u o u t 4Cf i ; : j . n u t e s or s o 1 a,;) nc5t & o i n &
to g o tnrczudh evet-arttit ng,
L>ui i w a u . l d i Lice
--
for the
p u r p o s e s of ttke r e c o r d 6 g a n g e d L o sutri6!i t t h i s j u r y quastiororaaire a e s a u s e i f e l t z l l a t i t W O U I ~ us a , r u c t i $;ive
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g e t f t~fcr;tlatf on
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po'kential jurors,
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osve
d
tiluch m ~ r ec h a t l e e of ge"t"ting
9c m o r e
t h e infortbation and
cha p e o p l e u o u l d
l f u , e l y to go
--
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these t h i n g s i n t h e q u e s t i o n n a i r e ,
f know t i l l s ~ 0 t h from
and
iriY
l i f e ecxperlence,
anct
also I
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p e o p a a i n t h e f i e l d of psyctlrslogjr,
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ctleln is a ,3006 f r i e n d ~f n i n e ,
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a social p s y c h o l ~ & S u t .
ne h n a b e e n an
;de
f o r y e a r s aUouL hold
TSJ~
t r i e jlrQecsS
i s i r t ~ r e d i b l ea n d how y o u ' r e r e a l l y
u ut t tn;e jurors.
;i.@ttln4 k h e infot"aati.cn ~
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inf cr;iiatictn y o u d 3
i n that s i t u a l i o n may be
i n a s t ; u r a f ; c i r : a n o p e n courtroo:it s e t t i n g a n d t h a t y o u
stio!~La
~ i t h he Jury q a s s b i o n n a i r e . t
h i s feelings a r e
t:it e v e n t u a l l y ;ia
tfla C o u r t ' s g o i n g t o i g s k e u y , 2 n d c h e y f
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ti'ir:
jury
, ~ t r e 3 t i o n r t a i r e *D
yesterday.
d i d n ' t g o a v e r i~ d o r ; a i l in
5uZ. 1 d o n ' t t l . i % n ~i t ' s j.spltr'iant. <
for the
p u P p o s c s of" ttiis.
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p o ~ s i b i e , b e i n g e i t h e r ~ r e j u d i c eto
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or
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jury
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n t o a r e a s c h a t 111i&!?t show a p o s s i b l e U i a s
or yrcjaraice
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,jury
g u u l a riot ue
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L o a i l i d e oy
Lit-
t h e Court's
way
i n s e r u c t i o r ~a b o u t r e a s o n a b l e d o u b t
t n a n a reasonabPe d o u b t .
AtlJ
exjlecE Laore
khr p u r p o s e
--
and,
a f s a , I dent; i n t o i n
t ! ~ a j u r y c . l m c s t i o n n a i r e t h e i r bacri$sourrd,
bac;igrounds,
their o h i i d r e i ~ ~ s
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art& w h a t k i t 1 4 of w o r g t h e y ilo,
if e ,
ex-!.$if e o r t h e i r d e c o e s e d
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therri,
o r husbc;lrtdFs r ) a c l i & r ~ u ~ ~ d ~
t o d o a i l t h i s i s not t o eifioaru'ass
a n d t h e r e a a a n t o d o a l l t i i l v i s not Lc; sornanow p r y
bt3
a n d c a u s e tnea Lo
uncoaif'ortariie,
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trlis is becaulse y o u i : l i g h t Se a b a e ';a $ b e a n i n f ' o r : i r a t i u t l
out of t h i s t h a t g o u l d
prvseclrtrar
be
v a l u a b l e Lo e i t h e r t n e
t3
o r t o m e i n t e r a s of' "they w u u k u be
~ 0 5 d
Juror or f a i r Juror f o r t n i s case,
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2SKi!?t$
f;hetik q r i e 9 t i 0 n ~ ~ ~
G U ~ O W , ifi W
t h e way it. d G e s
i n t r u d e s i n t o t n e f r l i f e and i t is t l n f s i r .
ssrC af
tllc say
iirld
B u t Lr1ak1s
our s y s t e t n is b u l l t srsund.
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9-
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--
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ni i 211 t
have been oft'ensive
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is a r e g i s t e . r * e d v o t e r .
Arid
. i : e r C a i f i l y i d l s r i f t . t h i n r : t h a t stn~arLa i n s u i 1 ; a n y o n e to a3K
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d
r e g i s t e r e d voter o r
not.
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i 3 i ~ t ii' t h a t
were
a
y r o t s l e ~ n or $any o t n e r q u e s t i o n s were
oi'f'ur-ed t o tile Cciuj-6,
pro'oieril, a s 1
I g o u l d h a v e e i t h e r t a k e n theibl o u t
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o n aiy l i t t l e eom;Juter
i n a n a t t i e r of seoorrds o r m i n u t e s ,
or I c o u l d have changed i t .
XVih
d q e n d i t ~ gu p o n the q u e s t i o n ,
?robrabby
zl
mat;ter of r n i n u t e s s i r t e e
And
n o t a fast LypCr.
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I was
o p e n to do ally of t h a c .
t h a t b ~ ~ ) ~ g LIP ta n o t h e r proolerc; tse i d o u l d h a v e . i l
I s a f t e r we h a v e t h i s j u r y
And t h a t ;
y u e a t i s n n a i r e , arid ti:ejrtre
infurmaibion there, t h e
u n d o u b L e d i y $ o i n g e o p u t down :lore
p r o s e c t l t a r a n d i a r e g r j i n g Lo need eiiiie Lo Look i t ; o v e r ,
And we may
k l a . ~ ~ Cs
do
f
u ~ ~ o \ ~ - u i P ,d i v i d ~ a iq L i e $ t i C J f l i ~ . g n
a n Lheii~ b c c e a u e socric of tile a n s w e r s t h e y g i v e i s g o i n g -iu
b e ro~ck!:nure r e v e a l i n g t h a n w h a t w e ' r e g o i n g t o g e t ti?
t h e c a u r t r o o ~ , . 14ayba e m b a r r a s s i n g t;o
a s k Ci.te:ii
in front
of a l l t h e p e a p l c ,
f i e a l i z i t ~ i ; ;t h a t t h i s i s t h e s i t t a k a t i o n , ~ h d i
I o f f e r e d t o do i s i crff'et"e6 t o f'urego t h e I n d i v f u u a i
c;tlast;fanistg
:sim$fy
at1
t h e J u r y c l u e s C i o n n a b r e arid i s a i v t l L h i i t ,
t o h a v e Lbe s c i i l i t i a n a i . i e n o u l e d g e tlrai; itre h a v e f r o K
U~OPI,
tile j u r y q u e s t i o n n a i r e Ca a c t
And
t h e n i f we d i d t h e s t a n d a r d v o i r d i r g e i n
then,
f'r-oni; sf
--
i n t h e open c o u r t ,
if tiley
then r a i s e
t h e i r h a n d a n d r a i s e s c a e c h i . r : g u p , rat? c o u l a a l w a y s g o
i r t t ~that,
3 s t L z;ia;$ > f i l l i n g
';Q
the
--
any
i n d i v i d u a i 4u;est;iotiini;; a n t h e j u r y y u e s t i i l t ~ n a i r a t o a v o i d
e a ~ b a r r a a s m e n t a n d s l n p X y h a v e t h a t l i t t l e b i r . of e x c r a
knuwled[:e
.viha,en s e l a i . t i r . ? &t k e j u r o P s i n C h i 3 c a s e .
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And a t t h i s p o i n t I u n i f e r s t a n d i t ' s u o 0 t ,
o u t y e s t e r d a y when we a i r ~ u e dd b o u t t h i s i t w a s n ' t :noor,
a n d t h e n d o n a i n t k i a o f o r u s Lo
--
argue i n t i n e
--
sirice
we
n e e d ~ l d i t by
t h r e e o t c i o c k , we a r d u e d i t by noon,
b u t i ~ e ere r e a l i y busy, w
T r i e d to g e t i t s o o n e r ,
t h a t we
c o u l d n ' t h a v e cione i t - .
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YO
that's
tl;n:jt
I: 2aenteci t o ~;ia;
r e c u r d a s Le, u l : d t
1 uiu yesLerbsy,
L haven't
,:iP~~0n3triies any
L i . 1 1 ng.
I'ii~s u r e
that if
[+hi-K
duasn3e correct nt,
1 ;
tPiLi.
Do y o u werrt ::re t o k i a i d o f f o n a s & ~ a i smut ng
i n d i v i a u a l q u a s t l o i ~ i n g o r a l l y wS' ti'te j a r o r s taon'd
THE GOUi(T:
Yes,
Do y o u h a v e a n y t h i n $ y c ~ uw a n t Lo ptlL o n tt'le
r.ecordtf
4
5AHijY:
Judge,
other t n h n
tilY
position
y e s t e r d a y was t h a t ;
I sau
! I I G S ~ ; of
t h e y u e s t i w r ~ st h a t w e r e
Mas'; of
~ u b i n i t t e d i n t h e q u o s t ; i s n n a i r ; - c ; w e r e redtlndan:.
t h e s e q u e s t i o n s a r e a i r e a c f y c o v e r e d ay- the C o u r t ' s
r,er?et*tllfzed v o i r d i r e .
Gf
c o u r s e , Your ifanor it;'$
i n your
d i s c r e t i o n a a t o gnat, s h o u l d bo d o n e i n t h e c o u r s e of
asKing questions, t-eclundant.
uut
lily
p a s i t f o r t i s p no st 01'
those are
They d ~ n t' n e e c ts be asked,
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And 1 t11oughz i n terins of t i l e & : i ~ ~ u n t of
f;iiile
c h a t % a s g o i n g to be n e c e s s a r y i n t h i s t y p e sf
situation
--
s i n c e i t was nut a iteach p e n a l t y c a s d
tiat
--
1
t t ~ o u g h t i f ; wor-lld
tie worth p r o c e e d i tlg i n b n a t t'auniot?,
D i d YOU
-3
Gray i a s k hi.n a q u e s t i o n ?
uiL'f'crenL j u r y
1s t n i s
i.1fi. ;iOLA113:
--
T h a t r s t h e sa3.e one.
Y e u C e r d a y w h e n L bruugh'G t h a t o v e r u e u c s e
t a l k i n g i f i f o r t o a l l y , a n d I ~ l d a n t e d3 1 i t h r e e
~i~
us t a h a v e
tdu
a copy.
it; w a s h o t ofi' r.ly r
e
,
a n u i had
copies
xiade ovctr :lere a t t h e
c a u r t c a p y center.
S i n c e I u a n t c d t o rrnske a r e c o r d a n d i w a n t e a
"tile Court; t o a l s o h a v e a s e p a r a t t ? one, I s
ti?
p
y
prititeci
a
new one i n s t e a d ef asbcb ng f o r
rjly
o r i & i n a i back s o i
c o u / d idake n c o p y sf it.
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ct>an~ii@nLu+
COUIYT:
L e t !rle :cake j u s t a cotnplc of'
i$
1 t h i n k tllat
a very h
i
'
concession t i l a t
yoc; !:jade
3bout
not havin;
f allow-up i n d i v i d r l a l
quesfionilrs,
d u t b e c a u s e t h i s is not a deati:
;-tcnali;y c a s e
a n d becaizse i t t 3 n 0 L ty y i c a i and Etecasse t
tile
. L t ; i i ~ i n &1
d c c l c r e d it; w a s n 1 s n e c e s s a r y t o t i s e t h e j u r y
y
uostionnaire.
iie s u r e t h a t 1
i n t e r e s t e d if t h e r e
are
L
a n y q u e s t i a n s that y o u triitlx a r e a p p r o p r i a t a ,
After
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f i t t i s h g i t h t h e g e n e r a l vclir d i r e ,
t e l l rae a t t h e b e n c h
c o n f e r e n c e so iJe c a n go, d c u a t anit c i r c l e tsrlatever r:utPbers
a n d I C a n a ~ j cSGL:IC a d d i t i o n a l q u e s t i o n s p e r h a p s
flZOiii
that,
Pi8.
tdUtA14D:
1 cold y o u 1 ;uay h a v e sorric. m o r e
b e c a u s e L h a L w a s nly t o r r e d - d o w n
vursior. t h a t I t h o u ; ~ k ~ t
w o u l d ae p a l a t a b l e tu tile S t a c e
;:lay not; ue S O p a l a b a b l e .
'TtiE C Q U I ( r ;
.
L
:nay h a v e sea e t h a k
i j n e ut!ler
G i ~ i n goff th? r e c o r a l
discussion.)
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Il'liE C O U R T :
i3ack o n lane r e c o r d ,
;?;~~t;i~t?*
firre n e x t
MH. NOLAtllD:
Yes,
Since we're
not goirrg t o h a v e
t h e j u r y ~ 4 u a s i ; i o n n a i i r e and s i n c e
a s i n u ~ hi r ; f ' s r a l a t i a r ;
--
well,
I w a n l t La
gi;eL
And
frorr! t h e s e j u r a r s a u p o s s i o l e .
i
u o i a l d Ij.;;e to
nobl
i f we c a n ' t , c l u e s k i o n thela i n d i v i d u a l l y
a t l e a s t da i t
on 311 g u e s d i o t a s , 1 . r ~ o u l dl i x e to
on
c e r t a i n a r e a s of q u e s t i o n : ; .
I would suggcsh; r e a i i y i t ' s a p p r o p r i a t e f o r a l l ciuest.ions a l o n g ttie saine l i n e s furquest.isnn.4i r e * .- '
the j ~ r y
TiiE COUR'r':
j iiI(. G NUL, i
You're
t a l k L r i g abuilt; p r i v a t e l y ?
i s ~ u~s e i o n i;lle:il p r i v a t e l y . Q e
.
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r e a s o n fc.r t h i s
--
I t'nirik
w e st;rtg v e
f o r r j e t i r a ~ , L Z C la^ f i e l d now p e o p l e ~ ~ i a be y
--
inay
n u b Liice
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L o tulk, e s p e c i a l l y
t a l k i n f r o n t ~f o t n e r s , o r t a l k i n
a r e a s t h a t ; rnaj d r a w a c r i L i @ i s , n ,
i4arl.r a n d 1, x e ;et
titat;
it,
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we take positions
w e seew to e n j u y
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b e u n p o g u l a r a l l Lhe
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arlG
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P J
it i n
tile b e g i r i n i n g ,
eliiie
a r e done, ~
we sessii "c @enjoy i t .
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a l s o a r e ~ n v o l w t 3 bw ~ t i ittlis, a n d
we t a L k
r . h a t C s s c z r t t v e wily i . ~ e f i - eirk & h i s f i e l d i s & c a u s e
ail are.
trlt:
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LJCS
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be, C a l k
n o t ue? g o o a a b i c ; ,
but ne t l i i n k
AYIJ
a l l ease
t;ii:le.
And o v e n t h e n
L i l d t i t i t s d o i n $ t o be
Z
thirtl.; i t g s j u s t husssn n a t u r e
u n c ~ i i ! f ~ r % & B o sr u u sometlrne3 L o lI
t a l ; ~ . E s p e c i a i l y i6t:erc jrau're t a l m c ~ n & about, ycruraelf L n
2'r'unt
of s t r a n g u r s ,
1tts
n & to b e u n c o ~ ~ f o r t a u ~ e ,
And s n u R a t y o u ' r e
o~crao~zing
--
tdr:
hdve
ta
ovesctl:aa h e r e f a on vrae h a n d t n e j i l r u r u a r e b e i n g t o i d a s
tney
' r e jtirclrs t i l e y tlnvc t a prctinlse to ansrder a l i t h e s e
?"ti1
quesLiotts,
t h e y l?aue to t e l l 2 s ttzese
--
dnu
r n v s t of
"Lie q u e s t i o n s cnre n u t a l l t h a t p r y i n g arid t n a L f s orrc
reason
cilrry
t h ~ ys i i o ~ l da n s n e r ,
Orr ti-te o t n e r hanc;,
you have
n u w b ~ r one
fear,
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time Lo t i t ~ i c . T h e cleric u i l l c a l i t i l e name o f tRs:
back
u e x t p e r s o n o n t h e i i s t , a n d s o u n e oi" y o u f r a a t;he
of' t i l e courRtrOoi:; w i l l oc c a l l e d up t o t a m t h e s e a t of
I;he nf s s i n g j u r o r ,
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ciu
is:
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trier@ a n y g i r c s t i a n s thaa; y o u waiala h a v e
to?
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q u e u ' i i o n u t h a t , you wouEd h a v e answerea y e s t o i r ! t h a
beginning,
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resparases froril trle f i r s t 2 7 p e o p l e wi?o h a v e b e e n c a l i e c ~
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record.
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l e f t i s Cilar.
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s t a r t e d a n d w h e n ;dc s t o p p e d , who t e s t r f i c d ,
attorneys xere i n v o l v e d , w e r e sacie a n d su f orti-i.
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goes on.
390 i s L h e b a i l i f f t h a t h e l p e d y o u co:rmu u p
t u F,ue c o u r t r o o i a h e r e ,
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s t s ~ s t i t u t e . 3 u t you t s n d e r s t a n d t h a t we a p 2 r e c i a t e
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is ~ t t c r erlnyone ,-+ha kvrows i f r . d a r r y a r
n t ~ j i o t ~who w o r x s f o r t i l e i t e y i i t y c o u n t y a t t ; c r r n e y t s o f f i c e ? e
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i4R.
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h i s xr;rd?
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i~cw L h e v c r c i i c t r l a d L u r r ~ a d o n o u t i n y o u r d e a f f n&
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p a s i Lf o:r a s a l a w e n f o r c e s e n t ctff i c e r ?
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a n t h e e v i d e n c e & h a t 8 g r e s e r ~ t c dtiad t h e i n s ~ r u c e l o n s s
t h a t a r c g i v e n sditklout uot?carrr a i l o u t , y o u r d e a i i n g s w L C t l i
your r e l a t i v e ?
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p e r s o r i wrro
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l4o answer.
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P h i i f i o l a n d is a p r i v a t e a t t o r n e y $ h a t is
d e f e n s e laidyet- i n t h i s c a s e .
Dsav arsjrona know bfr. i d o l a n d ?
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case,
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duPy 3 1 , 1993, Christopbar
I'4cGes; x a s a t Glic a p s r b r i l e n t
a t 3 6 8 3 t i o r t h 22n6 Avenue,
epartimont 2 3 5 ,
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t i e d u p arid b e a t e n .
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apartrrlant..
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i
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; l e s e r t a r e a n o r t t ~bf' P h o e n i x oil J ~ l l j i3 1 , 1 9 9 3 . .
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h a d Seen s t a b b e d r@peal;et.i.Ly b y o n e o r lrzsre of' the p e 0 2 i e f n t h e car'.
T h e S t a b $ is tsst s e e i c i n g t h e d e a t n p e n a l t y .
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defendant i s convictea
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charge" t h e deati'l
p e n a l t y i s n o t a n csgti.ian f a r
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t h e ciefentlarst,
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not; g u i l t y ,
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a n y t h i n g a B o i ~ tL h i s c a s e
o r heard anyorie e x p r e s s a n
a p i n i a n a50ul; t h i s case'i
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i t i n t h e p a p s r a y e a r ac;a,
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ago,
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effect o n y o u r s i t t r p r g
LfENPREIfZBSQrJ HAUL;:
a juror
i n this case?
I dotit t b e i i e v t . s o *
TIIS Gd'SAT:
T n e r e q u i r e z a n t af j u r i e s i n trle
LJniLed S t a k e s i s t k r a t t h e y t r y t h e e v l d e n o e u a s e d a n t n e
testimony,
t n a e x h i b i t s , and s o f o r t t i .
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--
if yotit
ye
a s k a d t u sit; a s
a jusor* a n d y o u stzoulJ ra:i~e;nber s o r n ~ t h i n & l b e a b o ? l t e
aase
fro^;!
k l a v r n g r e a d abctu& i t a n d ; ~ i a y b e i t s t r f ~ c si 3
resiJon:;ivc
c u r d , v r l l y a u be a b l e L u l e a v e t h a t o u t s i d . .
~ n f o r r r i a t z o n t o t h e s i d e a n d r e l y orlly s n t n e evidcrice
p r e s e n t e d tiere i n c o u r t ?
VibilRLPsi4SGti i-lAijG:
X b e l i e v e so,
'i't-ibni4: y o u .
TkiE Cr3UiX4r:
l.2
Qkay.
trier;?
arryctne e l s e wna ;say n a v e h c a r a
a n y t i i f rig o r
r e a d a ny t h i n g ?
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Yoilr
naiile,
sir,
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~ C ! ; P ~ C X .
\r E IiiLPEIiSQfi SG3f.IECK: ;
f a i s o reoieiaber r e a d i n g cabout it.
T;1E COURT:
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ue a la l u t o s e t a s i d e a n y of' ~
tinis c a s e
t h a t i n f o r I c ~ a t ; i c t r :t h a t y a u ;itay retileiiluer a n d t r y
o n l y by
t h e eevbdenco t n r j t g s $ r e s e n t e d
i n court?
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3CflRj22~;:
yes,
Ana L h a t u o c l l d 9a t r u e even1 i f y o i :
r@ri~e;ii bar scld~e a ~ t u tii o r k a l a a t b c r s d s the c s s e g o e s o n ?
WE14 iHEPE:ZSWij
.$CiiKZc'K;
Ye3.
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THE C O U R T :
l a y o u r S ' a i a i l b a r i t y i ~ i t t r some of t n e
d e t a i l s only fro61 n e k ~ s p a p e r a c c a u n t s o r petahkIp3 TV o r radio?
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u h o rtas a
r e c o l i e c t i o n of seeing
cestz?
hearitat; a n y t h i n g a b o u t t h i n
dkay ,
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i f a v e yoil o r a n y :;jambers of y u u r f a i i i l i y ctr
sriy c l o s e f r i e n d s b e e n i r ~ v o l v e df r i arty
c r i m e s of :nurder
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is c a l l e d f o r .
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:see no hands fro::;
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.
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itle t a c t 3 of Lhe c a s e t h s t X taave d e s c r i b e d i n
t h a t wou1.d rnake it d i f f i c u l t f a r i?tt~y of y o u
t o sit; a 3
,'juro~- i n t h i s c a s e ?
Ttlnnic y o u b
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f s e e no h a n d s ,
I a;n now
t.lf t n e s s e s
finish the
,490
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testify,
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1'11 asi< if a n y of y o u a r e f a n i l i a r
he n a ~ n e s Li-iat 1
have r c a ~ off i n w h a t e v e r g r o u p i n s L do.
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A n n H i c e ; X r i s t c o iec L o h l e r ,
X-o-r:-1-u-r;
f*IicheLle i y n r n C u r o e t t ; Tresa J o a n F u l p a r
--
erza L t s ?i -tl-L-p-e-r
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hdwarct Jcrinn F l o r r i s o n ;
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G-h-i-j-o-d-t-l,
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J a c k B j ~ l l a r d ;$cCec ; a n d J o h n
arian
H e o k e r ; D o r i s Wriene L u k e s ,
i-U-fi-e-3;
Laura l i r v i n ; di:~iriy
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who :r:ay
c o a e u g i n t n e t r i a l i n the $C?8tlirlotly 3f
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a s y o u w i l l ~ n gt,o s e r v e a n d s a c r i f i c e a s s i s 6 i n j u r y
service.
J u r y d u t y is o n e of S h e :iiosi; i l i l p o r t a r i t c f v ~ c
d u t i e s t h a t a p e r s o n c a n be c a i l s d u;>orl t o perfur:% i n t h e
llnitcd States.
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c o r i t i n u c or) n e x t % u t t d a y , T u e s a a y .
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2 - 3 , tfie j O . L k ,
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I c n , { t n o f Lhc d a i l y s c h e d u l e of t h e t r i a l t h a t p r e s e n t s a
t r i a 2 , whechcr i t fie a p c r s o t ~ a i r
e e busine$s
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p r a o f e t ~ , u r a tical ti^ prob1f"ii: t r l a t i s s i g n i f i c a n t ; e n o u g h
t n a t you n e e d
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d a g n t:re ~ a c k o u . r
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hands, a n d w e ' l l start
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ifi;i.LKii?ERSOi~ CETON:
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f'sr t h i s F t - i a s y d e g ~ e r l a l a $u p o n w n a k s a n e r e s u i t s cciiae
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trucay.
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b e off' Fr-iriay.
kfuFFi=~A{d U h i ck.1 i lj a :
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3 e r l l Se b a c k
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: i e ' i , l zbave t r i a l o n T h u r s d a y ,
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i n l ; r i a i o n Monday t i l e 5 t h .
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p e o p l e ~ o r i c i n qofi r i grit; tkow,
a n a tills s c i ~ e d u l eu o u l d
interfere.
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The p r o i l u c t
--
k t ' s a new p r o d u c t kncr w e
ataich w i l l
oe d t a i a g i n i n F e b r u a r y .
a r c II?r 5 a l c r i t i c a l g i l a s e s o f t h e systero's the
oevelwpm6t:'G,
i ? n i %etrc3d o i n k alajcsr t e s t i n g ,
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t u o d e e k s of'
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be a f t e r
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c a l e n d a r m a t t c r s r'or o t h e r c a s e s o n i a o t i o n s and R e a r 1 n&s
a n d sa f o r t n ,
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i ' ri n
%he rriornings.
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a f E e r n o o f i s b y y o u r wot-& i n t h e ; n o r n ~ n g ?
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2
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times we go i n t o
tile
evetlfngs.
3kay.
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fnar;i;
you.
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Anyone else?
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his.
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a l l taw daLa for t h e
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iot of' t h e ~ u t s i d @ u b l i ~ t y , f ~ ~ r ~ c i - r d ~ z f ;4e8 ve? g o t su g f tfd.
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1 dorr't
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cone u a c k u n t i l t h e i d e u n e s b a y a f t e r " T h a t z k s g i v i n g .
1 realize that's sort
there,
b u t 'cle h a d
0f
&
personal t h i n g
planned on i t .
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$;iy rrianager is g o i tlg ~ t ?
v a c a k i s n t o Meu Yusk, arrd i r l l b e i n c i l a r g e u i ~ i i as h e t s
gone.
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cli'len y o u r b a s s f s g o n e ?
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b e c a u s e skiat i i be gorie
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~
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is t i l e r e sorileone w h o cat1 t a X e
c h a r g e if y o u w e r e /sff f n LMC a f L e r ~ o o n ?
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Slle's i n therapy.
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